G04

[fox46]

I've been waiting to see how this develops as well. I have no clue how they expect to attach a belay line to the top of a robot that is 6ft+ off the ground without using a step ladder. To assert that a step ladder is unsafe and cannot be used by teams but can by field staff seems rather hypocritical. I have the feeling that they haven't quite thought this through.

[Gregor]

I'm curious as to how teams are planning on turning their robot off before disengaging from the tower.

[fox46]

In Q&A -

Q115
Q.Regarding the G4 "A" Update (2013-01-11) - For a robot completely within zone 3, how will the belay be attached if the attachment points are above the reach of the team? And will the belay mechanism allow a robot to be lifted slightly if that is necessary to remove it?

A.If the ROBOT cannot be removed from the PYRAMID under the constraints listed in [G04], the Team would receive a YELLOW CARD.

It would seem that you are not allowed to climb any higher than the tallest member of your team can reach.

G04
After the MATCH, ROBOTS may only be removed from a PYRAMID under the following conditions:

A. by the TEAM while standing on the floor without special equipment,
B. unpowered,
C. and under the supervision of a FIRST Technical Advisor (FTA), FTA Assistant, Referee, or Field Supervisor.

Additionally, if any part of the ROBOT is in Level 3, TEAMS are required to attach a FIRST supplied belay line, detailed in Section 2.2.5, to their ROBOT to spot a ROBOT while the TEAM removes it from the PYRAMID.

Violation: YELLOW CARD

I'm not quite sure what to say about this. I wonder what they consider "special equipment"? Would a 3' stick with a hook to disengage a ratchet be considered "special equipment"?

[Saberbot]

From my interpretation, that is exactly what they mean by special equipment. It look like it's time to recruit a tall human player.

[Garten Haeska]

It's rules like this that makes me glad that I'm 6' 5" and can reach the top bar.

[fox46]

Well since I am not 6'5"+, I consider myself physically handicapped. Good thing I own an artificial limb that measures 3ft long with a hook on the end.

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by fox46

I've been waiting to see how this develops as well. I have no clue how they expect to attach a belay line to the top of a robot that is 6ft+ off the ground without using a step ladder. To assert that a step ladder is unsafe and cannot be used by teams but can by field staff seems rather hypocritical. I have the feeling that they haven't quite thought this through.

I wouldn't say it's hypocritical, mainly because odds are, the event staff using a step ladder will be considered "trained staff"

[Qbot2640]

Originally Posted by stevend1994

I wouldn't say it's hypocritical, mainly because odds are, the event staff using a step ladder will be considered "trained staff"

I wouldn't count on this...the rule states that the robot will be removed "by the team" and "under the supervision of..." event staff (emphasis mine).

I asked the Q&A question quoted above, thinking that some assistance would be provided, but it seems that (from the response) that will not be the case. I would interpret that a team who needs assistance in any way getting their robot down will be issued the yellow card.