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Full Court shot

A bit of tweaking yesterday and our shooter was hitting the high goal at full court length. More consistent at shorter ranges, but getting a goal from 57 feet was fun.
Video, of course.

This is after we did some weight balancing on the stock AndyMark pneumatic wheel.

Onward to our anti-gravity climbing device.
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Re: Full Court shot

Nice video. That looks awesome. I assume you know there might be a pyramid on the field, so that's why you programmed in that little curve at the end....
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Re: Full Court shot

Very impressive! Was it a one in a million type shot, or something more repeatable? Either way it looks really cool!
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Re: Full Court shot

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Nice video. That looks awesome. I assume you know there might be a pyramid on the field, so that's why you programmed in that little curve at the end....
Of course.
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Very impressive! Was it a one in a million type shot, or something more repeatable? Either way it looks really cool!
It was about a one in five shot. With quite a bit of variance in the trajectory. Once the Frisbee goes past its vertical peak it becomes incredibly sensitive to even tiny variations from horizontal at launch. Well at least ours do.

We spent some more time balancing the wheel today and got it a bit straighter, but we're more concerned with shorter shots, that one was just too neat not to post.

Those wheels and the hubs have enough play to rattle anything apart. In today's tests one of the students said "It's much smoother, the floor isn't vibrating enough to make my legs numb."
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Re: Full Court shot

Hello bfk,

What motor are you using to drive the pneumatic wheel? The results look great!
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What motor are you using to drive the pneumatic wheel? The results look great!
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Prototype shooter sinking the Frisbee at 57 feet. Single CIM running at about 90% power with AndyMark pneumatic wheel.
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Re: Full Court shot

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What motor are you using to drive the pneumatic wheel? The results look great!
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Re: Full Court shot

I fear I'm opening up a can o' worms here, but does anyone think the long shots, i.e. from more than half court or so, will be affected by air currents/movement much? The shorter shots seem to not rely much on the disc floating. Is there much air movement inside a typical arena?
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We spent some more time balancing the wheel today and got it a bit straighter, but we're more concerned with shorter shots, that one was just too neat not to post.

Those wheels and the hubs have enough play to rattle anything apart. In today's tests one of the students said "It's much smoother, the floor isn't vibrating enough to make my legs numb."
We had that same problem, which was causing some variance in our shot accuracy. We might've had a chance of making some shots like you're own, but they would've been very rare. Very impressed by your work!
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Out of curiosity, what gear ratio were you using?
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Re: Full Court shot

Before I go all "safety mode", let me just point out that is a very cool shot and I'm pretty impressed. Okay... now its time for the tech inspector in me to express a concern...

I know this is just a prototype, and that you're probably already planning a safety shield for this shooter, but I think teams should be aware that not only are these wheels not designed to spin at high RPM, but that they store a significant amount of finger-ripping energy when they do.

It is much easier to build safety shields in to your design than to add them as part of tech inspection!

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That looks like the AM Pneumatic wheel. Were also using that, but it wobbles insanely. How did you manage to fix that? Yours looks pretty stable.
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Re: Full Court shot

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I fear I'm opening up a can o' worms here, but does anyone think the long shots, i.e. from more than half court or so, will be affected by air currents/movement much? The shorter shots seem to not rely much on the disc floating. Is there much air movement inside a typical arena?
I suspect that will be very venue dependent, unless they crank the bass way up on the PA, just to even things out between venues. Oops, maybe I shouldn't have said that.
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Gears? We don't need no stinking gears!

It was direct drive off a CIM, running at about 90% power.
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