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Re: New Scouting App Released

This is awesome!! I will DEFINITELY forward this to our other Android users here at 3753

Some questions:
-Are there any plans for an iPhone version? EDIT: nevermind, just read that
-I actually have NEVER used bluetooth.. so.. what do I need to do to set up my computer as the central computer for data?

Some feedback:
-Add a section for Autonomous scoring (Whether they went for the 1, 2, or 3 pt goal, how many they shot, how many they scored, and Autononomous points scored. Don't forget some teams might shoot more than 3 frisbees in Autonomous, and some teams might do more than just shoot. Might want an Autonomous section in the comments too.)
-The whole thing is kinda expanded, but I think it could be smaller. For example, when Scoring is marked as "Cannot score", HIDE the Can Score On section. (same for climbing). Dropdowns and Show/Hide Section buttons.
-Split Penalties up into Team and Alliance

Later today I'll post a picture of how you might be able to update it
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Re: New Scouting App Released

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This is awesome!! I will DEFINITELY forward this to our other Android users here at 3753

Some questions:
-Are there any plans for an iPhone version? EDIT: nevermind, just read that
-I actually have NEVER used bluetooth.. so.. what do I need to do to set up my computer as the central computer for data?

Some feedback:
-Add a section for Autonomous scoring (Whether they went for the 1, 2, or 3 pt goal, how many they shot, how many they scored, and Autononomous points scored. Don't forget some teams might shoot more than 3 frisbees in Autonomous, and some teams might do more than just shoot. Might want an Autonomous section in the comments too.)
-The whole thing is kinda expanded, but I think it could be smaller. For example, when Scoring is marked as "Cannot score", HIDE the Can Score On section. (same for climbing). Dropdowns and Show/Hide Section buttons.
-Split Penalties up into Team and Alliance

Later today I'll post a picture of how you might be able to update it
Thank You for the UI Suggestions, I will see what I can do on the Added Fields and I will definitely add sections for Team/Alliance Penalties, Thank You!

To get Bluetooth Working on Your computer you will need Built in Bluetooth or An External Bluetooth Module, other than that you should be able to run the Bluetooth Server without a problem.
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Re: New Scouting App Released

I've actually been working on my own implementation of a scouting app. I had a working app last year, but it was thrown together last minute, so it could only be used by my team. I'm working on making it usable by other teams, and updating it for this year.

I like the bluetooth idea a lot, it hadn't even crossed my mind. Mine interfaces with a custom webpage on our team's server, and utilizes the SQL database on the server for data storage, but as such, the app requires an internet connection.

I plan on releasing mine sometime soon (probably not in time for this year's game), including the php source and a script to generate the database tables needed.

I'm open to any idea-sharing though, I like the bluetooth idea, and I'm still working on data presentation functionality.


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Re: New Scouting App Released

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I've actually been working on my own implementation of a scouting app. I had a working app last year, but it was thrown together last minute, so it could only be used by my team. I'm working on making it usable by other teams, and updating it for this year.

I like the bluetooth idea a lot, it hadn't even crossed my mind. Mine interfaces with a custom webpage on our team's server, and utilizes the SQL database on the server for data storage, but as such, the app requires an internet connection.

I plan on releasing mine sometime soon (probably not in time for this year's game), including the php source and a script to generate the database tables needed.

I'm open to any idea-sharing though, I like the bluetooth idea, and I'm still working on data presentation functionality.


Good on ya!
Yeah, our original idea was to use WiFi and the internet, but we read a rule that restricted wireless communication in the stands, so we found Bluetooth as an acceptable solution, but I was considering interfacing with our teams database to create a publicly available database of everybody's scouts.
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Re: New Scouting App Released

Another thing to take into account everybody:

Since the app and its source code will be released, other people can play around with various ways to implement it. Our hope is that it is not merely a 1 year app, and that people can continue to build on the platform we set up for years to come...
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Re: New Scouting App Released

Heres the paper i mentioned in an earlier post.
I tried to add a few things and several new features that would help in my opinion. Sorry for sloppy hand-writing and what not. Hope this helps yall Thank you for the free app!
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Re: New Scouting App Released

WOW We are really considering using this! Great work!
I second the autonomous section that would really make this perfect. We heavily use autonomous data to make our selection it is very important to our team.
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Re: New Scouting App Released

To make things a little more intuitive, you might want to change the goal scoring from being on/off switches and instead make buttons of 1, 2, 3 and 5 that can be tapped and then display the number of taps next to it. Then you could add those scores together automatically with the climbing points.

Also, it might not hurt to include a section on shots missed.

I will use my B-level of java knowledge (and below average android sdk knowledge) to poke through the code when/if it's released.

It's a great idea, one that I never had the time to develop while a member of a team and now have even less time as a college student. Thanks!
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Re: New Scouting App Released

Today, I caught up with several of the ongoing threads related to scouting, specifically tablet scouting systems. Last year, FIRST Team 1073 created on a system for scouting that uses Android tablets and a central data processing application written in Python. It appears to be similar in concept to what FIRST Team 2410 is doing. And, in the spirit of open collaboration, we’d like to put the system out there for other teams to look at and see if it has usefulness for them. All of the source code is open sourced through GitHub, though at the moment enhancements for this year are still being actively developed.

We do realize that the teams who have already invested in a tablet solution probably have a particular attachment to that system and are not likely to consider something different. But, it would be very cool if we could work together on ways that our systems could potentially interoperate and share data. Please PM me if you are interested in getting something going. Additionally, FIRST Team 1073 is going to be trying out a “cloud based” version of our central application this year so that all team members can access our data at comp through a smartphone or 3G tablet. We’re always trying to find different ways to keep everyone informed and engaged throughout the competition events, and this cloud model is something different for us.

If you are a team evaluating a tablet solution, send me a note and I will respond with more detailed information. I initially had the details in this post but it got way too long...Here are links to the current version of our team’s pit and match scouting applications. You should be able to click on each link from a browser on the Android tablet and the package should get installed. The only requirement is that the tablet be running Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich).

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18568035/Ma...ngTest2013.apk
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18568035/Pi...ngTest2013.apk
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