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Originally Posted by Nuttyman54

And everyone forgets that they were also World Finalists in 2008. That's three straight trips to Einstein finals. Let's break down the numbers here:

The last time 67 had a season where they did not win a regional was 2001 (If the FIRST website is to be believed).

Since 2008, they have played on 23 different fields of play (including Einstein appearances). They reached the finals 21 of those times, and came away with 17 wins. That is a finals appearance rate of over 90%, and a conversion rate of 80%.

I firmly believe that 67's 2009-2010 back-to-back Championships marks the greatest performance by a single team ever. Yes, even better than Beatty 2001-2002. 67 lost one event in that stretch, walking away finalists at MSC to 469 in 2010. They won every single other event, including the Championship. That is 8 wins in 9 appearances.

Adam is correct that they missed their goal (winning the Championship) several times. He, and the rest of 67, are also incredibly humble and one of the greatest groups of people you will ever meet in FIRST. But let's also consider that two other teams that are always part of the "best teams" discussion, 1114 and 2056, have one Championship win between them. 67 has three. That puts into perspective just how insanely hard it is to do what HOT did.

I'm not knocking 67 in any way, shape, or form, but would these yearly results have happened if they weren't able to have well over 60 matches a year before going to the World Championships?

What do most teams who go to CMP have? 20-32(Thats going off a team going to 2 regionals). If you give those same teams double the play time and experience both on the field and in the pits, I guarantee you 67(and other dominant Michigan teams) have an exponentially harder time. Now, I'm not saying they still wouldnt have won or dominated the way they did, every drive team always wishes they had more time to practice and more matches to play and more time to code and more time to fix/upgrade their robot.