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Re: Predict the most violated rule of the year

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Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik View Post
Same rules as last year, and 1477 employed this to great effect to keep people from blocking them while shooting from the key. They could drop a pickup mechanism to maintain contact with the key and scoot forward to tag someone for a foul. I expect the only way you're going to see G18-1 called is if a team bulldozes someone into a loading zone or pyramid, then pins them there and keeps tagging them to rack up fouls. That's obviously a strategy solely aimed at using fouls to score points. A team that bumps a defender as in your example is trying to get a clear shot to score points.
Not quite. Similar rules, but missing the exemption in [G44]

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Originally Posted by 2012 Manual
[G28]
Robots may not touch an opponent Robot in contact with its Key, Alley, or Bridge.
Violation: Foul; Technical-Foul for purposeful, consequential contact.

Blue Box: This rule applied at all times, no matter who initiates the contact, see [G44]
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Originally Posted by 2012 Manual
[G44]
Generally, a rule violation by an Alliance that was directly caused by actions of the opposing Alliance will not be
penalized. Rule [G28] is an exception to this rule.
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Originally Posted by 2012 Manual
[G45]
Strategies exploiting Rule [G44] are not in the spirit of the FRC and are not allowed.
Violation: Technical-Foul and Red Card
[G44] gave a direct exemption to [G28] for this situation, meaning that red robot on red key was allowed to run into blue robot, causing a foul against blue. I take [G45] to exist to avoid teams repeatedly causing a dead blue robot to foul, or something similar.

I don't see an equivalent to the exemption in [G44] this year, which means that [G18-1] and [G30] directly contradict each other.

Red robot is touching red pyramid. Blue robot comes nearby. Red robot drives up and touches blue robot, while still in contact with red pyramid. [G30] fouls blue for contacting red robot while red robot is touching pyramid, but [G18-1] fouls red for intentionally drawing a foul.
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