Should Chairman's Winners Be Required to Publicly Post Essays?

[jblay]

I think it's important that Chairman's teams do this. Creating better chairman's teams that spread the word of FIRST like they do is the the very spirit of the Chairman's award.

[Justin Montois]

As a Chairman's Award submitting team, I can say I would have no problem posting our finished essay online. We are proud of our accomplishments and we would love to have anyone who wants to read about it do just that.

As far as it being 'required' i'm not sure I agree with that. Teams should have the right to choose for themselves.

I think it would be a good idea for FIRST to have a location on their website for all winning teams (Or all submitting teams) to post essays if they choose. I feel like they may have talked about this in the past actually.

I know Bomb Squad wanted all RCA winners one year to submit their essays for inclusion in 16's HoF display. Not sure if they still do it.

Bottom line, should teams do it? Probably. Should it be required? Probably not.

[AllenGregoryIV]

I'm all for sharing but I also don't think sharing should ever be mandatory. Once you make something mandatory you can only make people upset. The people that want to do it willingly will do it anyway.

I do however think there are lots of ways that we as a community can encourage more sharing of all the things that teams do including the Chairman's award.

FRC-Designs has been a great resource for getting teams to share the CAD files for their robots. Why don't we have something similar for Chairman's teams? (It's been on my list of things to do for about a year, but I am awful at web programming and haven't had a student who is good at the back end part of it either) Having a central database would not only help encourage people to share but would make them far easier for people to view. It's hard to find all the ones that are posted. I have a pretty large collection that I give to students who write the essay every year so they can look through them without having to hunt them down there selves. The website could also have the executive summaries, photos, presentation scripts, videos, slides, and everything else that goes into a Chairman's Award winning submission.

[LeelandS]

I personally do not feel the Chairman's Award teams should be required to post their essays.

One of the reasons I feel this way is because Chairman's is a competition. It's a more brutal competition than the actual game in a sense that teams who win it devote time and effort into it that transcends our six week build window. Now, while I do find it important for teams to draw inspiration from the Hall of Fame teams, but it's something that each time must find their own path to.

When I was a student on 1126 writing the Chairman's Award for 2010 and 2011, it shouldn't surprise anyone familiar with the Finger Lakes region that I studied 340's submission essays as much as possible. I didn't want to steal their ideas for winning the award, but I wanted to see what a winning essay looks like. My biggest fear is that, by releasing the winning essays, teams will be compelled to mimic the team's actions. Maybe not by building a special demo robot that they can use to make balloon animals or by designing a smartphone app, but I fear it will become a game of who can mimic 1114's or 67's or 254's (etc.) submission the best.

Maybe I'm just paranoid in believing that that would happen. But I think that a team's submission essay should be kept private, at the discretion of the team. Besides, a Chairman's Award winning team is likely to want to help the FIRST community anyway, and post their essay in that regard.

(If you find my explanation lacking, because I do have difficulty explaining things like this, you could just say that I don't think there is enough of a gain in posting the essay to FORCE teams to make it public.)

[PayneTrain]

Working with a team who has spent 3 years re-dedicating to work towards their first RCA and a team now beginning the long haul to a CCA (mostly in outreach/marketing/awards submission areas) I'm stuck. On one hand, a lot of team already post their award submissions because it falls in line with their mission to improve the program on a regional/state/national/international level outside of their team number. On the other hand, if the teams really believe in that mission and FIRST receives the submissions in plaintext anyway, why not release them?

Yet, maybe some teams consider themselves to be role model teams by what they do and not what they submit for awards, so basically I'm flip flopping while typing and will probably change my opinion a few times more even after this thread dies.

EDIT: I'm all for compromises, so maybe submissions could include a check-box for something like "FIRST can publish and reproduce this awards submission for purposes of furthering the mission of the Chairman's Award"

[Koko Ed]

We would have love to display our Chairman's winning design (I was told it was in the form of a board game) from back in '92 but I am sad to inform the masses that it was lost forever many moves ago.

[Marc P.]

Originally Posted by LeelandS

My biggest fear is that, by releasing the winning essays, teams will be compelled to mimic the team's actions. Maybe not by building a special demo robot that they can use to make balloon animals or by designing a smartphone app, but I fear it will become a game of who can mimic 1114's or 67's or 254's (etc.) submission the best.

This is precisely what the Chairman's award is about! From the description of the award we hear every year as the winners are announced:

Originally Posted by Chairman's Award Description, The Manual

The Chairman’s Award represents the spirit of FIRST. It honors the team that, in the judges’ estimation, best represents a model for other teams to emulate, and which embodies the goals and purpose of FIRST. It remains FIRST’s most prestigious award.

(emphasis mine)

Chairman's award winning teams set the standard for all FIRST teams, on and off the field. Whether or not they share the essay is relatively unimportant. How they impact their community and promote the goals and purpose of FIRST is. I would hope a winning team has a strong enough community presence where an essay isn't the only way to know what they do. Marketing and publicity are just as important as anything else a team does- accomplishments should be listed on the team's website, in local media, displayed in their pit, and spoken of through casual conversation. I can't imagine a winning team keeping the FIRST community in the dark as to what they've been up to outside of competition.

[ebarker]

Marc. P beat me to the post........

If you are submitting for Chairman's, the you are publicly declaring your team to be a role model. What you do, how you act, how you accomplish your work should be visible to all.

That is what a role model is.

Someone please correct me but I vaguely remember a statement from FIRST last spring stating that starting in 2013 all winning Regional Chairman's teams essays would be published. But I don't remember and need to research it.

We do not have a problem publishing the essay and it is posted on ChiefDelphi white papers.

[Alan Anderson]

I can think of only one potential negative result of sharing a Chairman's Award essay:

Some people will publicly critique, nitpick, or otherwise complain about what a team says it does. This could include accusations of exaggerating or even inventing details. Even if such accusations are without merit, they would still cast shadows over the process.

Though I doubt that would be enough to detract from all the potential positives, I'm still leaning toward leaving things as they are. It seems to me that the teams that truly deserve to be emulated already share their essays.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson

I can think of only one potential negative result of sharing a Chairman's Award essay:

Some people will publicly critique, nitpick, or otherwise complain about what a team says it does. This could include accusations of exaggerating or even inventing details. Even if such accusations are without merit, they would still cast shadows over the process.

Though I doubt that would be enough to detract from all the potential positives, I'm still leaning toward leaving things as they are. It seems to me that the teams that truly deserve to be emulated already share their essays.

You bring up an interesting point, Alan!

I haven't written my opinion yet, but this is a big part of it, so I'll throw in another question:

Would the thought of making essays publicly available discourage teams from bending the truth, reduce exaggerations, or in general, create a system of checks & balances? I read a thread on here a while ago about a team discussing something similar to this that made me think about this type of situation. Do people in FRC think that teams who win/submit Chairman's already have the decency to avoid things like this? What about if a student is submitting/writing an award and just doesn't know all aspects of the type of work their team has done in the community? How can it be ensured a student doesn't pass along false information/exaggerations to the judges? (In general, this is the tougher part of the question, in my opinion). Should teams have to present visual evidence of all events/services to judges?

Would teams reading these essays be rude and harass a team about something that is written in an essay, or would they calmly ask questions in private?

Originally Posted by ebarker

If you are submitting for Chairman's, the you are publicly declaring your team to be a role model. What you do, how you act, how you accomplish your work should be visible to all.

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Someone please correct me but I vaguely remember a statement from FIRST last spring stating that starting in 2013 all winning Regional Chairman's teams essays would be published. But I don't remember and need to research it.

We do not have a problem publishing the essay and it is posted on ChiefDelphi white papers.

Ed, I think I almost totally agree with your first point, with some small exceptions maybe.

As per your second point - if you find a statement regarding this, please do share.

As I said before, some of the questions I raise may sound controversial, so please keep the discussion as civil as it has been!

[PayneTrain]

Maybe I am naive or ignorant, but I have never witnessed any Chairman's Essay that would suggest an exaggeration of truth or a discussion on the veracity of a submission.

Does this actually happen frequently and I have no idea of it?

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

Maybe I am naive or ignorant, but I have never witnessed any Chairman's Essay that would suggest an exaggeration of truth or a discussion on the veracity of a submission.

Does this actually happen frequently and I have no idea of it?

Wil, to clarify, the threads that prompted me to think about this type of stuff were these two, posted by a mentor of 1912. The questions they posted made my think about how far some teams may intentionally or unintentionally stretch details of services to their community. I thought they were two great questions.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...t=Chairman%27s

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...t=Chairman%27s

In these cases, for example, if a team claims to have mentored or started another team, would judges confirm this type of information with the team that was mentored? Do they ask how involved the mentee (is that a word?) team was? I've just always wondered how judges may go about this.

If anyone here is a Chairman's judge at the district, regional, or CMP level, I'd really love to hear about this process as it seems extremely difficult.

And, as always, my remarks are not accusatory, so don't wonder if these questions were prompted because of a team from my area. They are just questions that a few friends from all over and I had and were wondering about. My remarks are also mine and mine alone, and in no way reflect associated teams.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

Maybe I am naive or ignorant, but I have never witnessed any Chairman's Essay that would suggest an exaggeration of truth or a discussion on the veracity of a submission.

Does this actually happen frequently and I have no idea of it?

I know of one winning RCA essay (not from a team I have been active on) that exaggerated the truth/misled to believe said team did something major that didn't happen.

I believe it should be up to RCA teams if they want to post their essay but I wish CCA essays were posted. Recently our team found 365's 2007 CCA submission and it was very inspiring to see the impact that team has had.

[Rich Kressly]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

... Would the thought of making essays publicly available discourage teams from bending the truth, reduce exaggerations, or in general, create a system of checks & balances? ...

What if I responded to this by saying that I don't care if these things take place or if there is ever a system of checks and balances? I would hope all teams do their absolute best to represent themselves fairly and well, but trying to externally mandate or manage this is a bad idea...

The Chairman's Award is about documenting your team's growth, impact, and outreach so you keep the type of focus in your program that Dean, Woodie, Dr. Murphy, John Abele, and others have envisioned since the beginning. It about managing your team and program in a way that's more concerned with positive culture change than it is with solely building a killer robot every year. It's about being a model for the creation of socially conscious leaders.

You start shifting the focus toward "catching the cheaters" and you'll start creating more teams that point fingers and worry about the blue banner as opposed to worrying about the healthy pursuit of the blue banner.

Do I want every team to be 100% honest (whatever that means, btw) in their endeavors? Yes. Do I want to spend any time thinking about other teams that might not be doing business that way? No. Not at all.

I want to seek out the models in the FIRST community, take previous year's judging feedback given to my team, think deeply about what makes sense in growing my team's program, and then plan a positive course for growth.

This effort is about the mirror test folks; it's not about looking for the "cheaters." I realize that I may be in the minority here, but we're not going to change enough of the culture for the better if we don't start thinking differently and living accordingly.

my .02, take it for what it's worth.

[JaneYoung]

Originally Posted by Rich Kressly

What if I responded to this by saying that I don't care if these things take place or if there is ever a system of checks and balances? I would hope all teams do their absolute best to represent themselves fairly and well, but trying to externally mandate or manage this is a bad idea...

The Chairman's Award is about documenting your team's growth, impact, and outreach so you keep the type of focus in your program that Dean, Woodie, Dr. Murphy, John Abele, and others have envisioned since the beginning. It about managing your team and program in a way that's more concerned with positive culture change than it is with solely building a killer robot every year. It's about being a model for the creation of socially conscious leaders.

You start shifting the focus toward "catching the cheaters" and you'll start creating more teams that point fingers and worry about the blue banner as opposed to worrying about the healthy pursuit of the blue banner.

Do I want every team to be 100% honest (whatever that means, btw) in their endeavors? Yes. Do I want to spend any time thinking about other teams that might not be doing business that way? No. Not at all.

I want to seek out the models in the FIRST community, take previous year's judging feedback given to my team, think deeply about what makes sense in growing my team's program, and then plan a positive course for growth.

This effort is about the mirror test folks; it's not about looking for the "cheaters." I realize that I may be in the minority here, but we're not going to change enough of the culture for the better if we don't start thinking differently and living accordingly.

my .02, take it for what it's worth.

Wish we could spotlight an entire post.

Wisdom.

Jane