Time To Climb ;)

[Justin Shelley]

How quick will your robot climb and to what position? Choose your best option! And sorry for the length of options lol

[Justin Shelley]

30 pt climb in under 10 seconds? WINNING!!!! lol

[dcarr]

It will be interesting to compare this to actual climbs once the season is over...

[cadandcookies]

How many <10 second climbs have actually be tested/shown? I'd like to bet that there are more "theoretical" <10 second climbers than will be shown (but that's almost always the case, non?)

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by sentientfungus

How many <10 second climbs have actually be tested/shown? I'd like to bet that there are more "theoretical" <10 second climbers than will be shown (but that's almost always the case, non?)

10 point climbs...several. Anything higher, I don't believe has been shared.

[Justin Shelley]

i agree with you guys. Just like the bridges last year

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley

i agree with you guys. Just like the bridges last year

And I think it's safe to say that climbing is roughly 10^5 times harder

[Justin Shelley]

Originally Posted by dcarr

And I think it's safe to say that climbing is roughly 10^5 times harder

i completly agree. Yet teams are always going to say they can do it when they are no where near doing it. They do it once in 4 minutes in practice and then they think they can do it always though i can say i see it in our team at times also

[cadandcookies]

There was a 30 climb shown earlier this week (albeit from the robot's perspective) by Team 2481 that looks like about as fast as you'll be able to get on a 30 point climb that, combined with a misinterpretation of the poll's answers, gave rise to my statement.

I'm betting that any decent team will have a simple <10 second ten point climber by their last regional/ championships. Probably of the non-mechanical type shown earlier in the season.

Competitions will be very interesting this year; I think this year's game leaves room for a lot of tweaks at competition.

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by sentientfungus

I'm betting that any decent team will have a simple <10 second ten point climber by their last regional/ championships. Probably of the non-mechanical type shown earlier in the season.

Agreed...barring unusual strategies or circumstances, any robot that does not at least have a quick, passive 10 point climb system could be considered to be "doing it wrong."

[z_beeblebrox]

Originally Posted by dcarr

And I think it's safe to say that climbing is roughly 10^5 times harder

Depends. A 10 point climb can be a simple passive wedge-like device, not much harder than balancing the bridges, which requires a powered device to lower them and a decent drivetrain. A 30 point climb, however, is one of the hardest challenges ever given by FIRST.

[Justin Shelley]

Originally Posted by sentientfungus

There was a 30 climb shown earlier this week (albeit from the robot's perspective) by Team 2481 that looks like about as fast as you'll be able to get on a 30 point climb that, combined with a misinterpretation of the poll's answers, gave rise to my statement.

And their climb was about 20-24 seconds. I agree with you and i think that is amazingly fast!

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by z_beeblebrox

Depends. A 10 point climb can be a simple passive wedge-like device, not much harder than balancing the bridges, which requires a powered device to lower them and a decent drivetrain. A 30 point climb, however, is one of the hardest challenges ever given by FIRST.

Right on. I'd argue a 10 point hang can be easier (less practice/driver dependence) than a balance, but beyond that, it gets dramatically difficult.

[cadandcookies]

Adding a wedge is (theoretically) easy, much like a balance last year. I doubt there will be many teams able to add a 20 or 30 point mechanism during competition season, unlike last year, where a wide robot which might not have been able to find robots to triple balance with during qualifications might be able to have partners that facilitate a triple during eliminations or at later competitions.

[dcarr]

Bottom line, we can expect to see a lot of iteration this season.