Bumpers and withholding allowance

[dellagd]

So, do the bumpers count towards our 30 pounds of allowance if they are not bagged?

From my interpretation, no. Is this correct?

[notmattlythgoe]

Originally Posted by dellagd

So, do the bumpers count towards our 30 pounds of allowance if they are not bagged?

From my interpretation, no. Is this correct?

There was a Q&A on this and no they do not count towards it according to it.

[MagiChau]

Batteries do not count towards the withholding allowance this year.

R21
Teams may bring a maximum of 30 lbs of FABRICATED ITEMS to each event to be used to repair and/or upgrade their ROBOT.

For Teams attending 2-Day Events, these FABRICATED ITEMS may be used during the Robot Access Period and/or brought to the Event, but the total weight may not exceed 30 lbs. FABRICATED ITEMS constructed during the Robot Access Period and bagged with the ROBOT are exempt from this limit.

The OPERATOR CONSOLE, BUMPERS, and any ROBOT battery assemblies (as described in R05-A) are exempt from this limit.

[PayneTrain]

Quoting Rule <R21>, bold emphasis is mine:

Teams may bring a maximum of 30 lbs of FABRICATED ITEMS to each event to be used to repair and/or upgrade their ROBOT.

For Teams attending 2-Day Events, these FABRICATED ITEMS may be used during the Robot Access Period and/or brought to the Event, but the total weight may not exceed 30 lbs. FABRICATED ITEMS constructed during the Robot Access Period and bagged with the ROBOT are exempt from this limit.

The OPERATOR CONSOLE, BUMPERS, and any ROBOT battery assemblies (as described in R05-A) are exempt from this limit.

Keep in mind that all rules and regulations for this year's competition have been, currently, are, and will be available at http://frc-manual.usfirst.org/ in an easy-to search format.

Good luck today, and remember to have your robot all bagged up before midnight local time.

[dellagd]

Thanks to all. I had seen conflicting answers other places on Chief Delphi which is why I asked.

[FrankJ]

This is a change for 2013. Older posts will correctly (for then) have a different answer.

[Squirrel]

Hi this year our team decided on using reversible bumpers but a little of the other color shows on the internal corner, is this ok?
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[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by dellagd

Thanks to all. I had seen conflicting answers other places on Chief Delphi which is why I asked.

If you have a rules-related question, don't come here first. That's what the manual is for. Chief Delphi is a great place to talk about robots, strategy, competitions, specific technical questions not related to rules, and emergency issues, but no one on here writes the rules (especially that "PayneTrain" guy... what a weirdo...). Go to the manual for rules-related questions. If it is unclear, check the Q&A. The answers are likely easier to find, already available, and most important of all, official information related to rules and regulations of the current FRC season.

Originally Posted by Squirrel

Hi this year our team decided on using reversible bumpers but a little of the other color shows on the internal corner, is this ok?
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First, welcome to Chief Delphi! Second, read what I told Griffin above and realize that anything I do not specifically cite from the rules or Q&A can help you when pleading your case with an RI or LRI (I know, an engineering student with free time is a rare thing, but I am not a qualified robot inspector like some here, nor am I the rules or Q&A's mouthpiece). Besides, those guys are usually very smart and scary so I just smile and nod when they explain an issue and fix the problems immeadietly

The closest I can get to answering your question in the rules is <R24-D>:

The cloth must completely enclose all exterior surfaces of the wood and pool noodle material when the BUMPER is installed on the ROBOT. The fabric covering the BUMPERS must be a solid Red or Blue in color.

With this in mind, I would have to say that you should take time between bag time and practice day to fix that problem. I have seen some teams get away with it, but at best it looks shoddy, and at worst, an inspector will not pass them because the colors are not solid. In a brief Q&A search, I did not find anything specific to your question, so I implore you to go here and ask it.