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Re: Team Update 2-19 and FRC Blog - Week 0 Observations and Stop Build Day

I was a human player at the Suffeild Scrimmage for team 177, and it was one of, if the best moment of my robotics experience. Over the course of a day I hit a total of 11 shots with my highest score in a single match being eight, (two three pointers and one two pointer) FIRST took all of the fun out of being a human player, while simultaneously ruining many teams overall strategy of relying on the discs of blizzard time. I am disappointed not only of the shortsightedness of FIRST (I mean what did you expect?) but also how poorly they responded to this problem. Instead of finding a rational solution that wouldn't change the overall flow and style of the game, the instead decided to cut out and ignore the problem all together. Great life lesson FIRST, if you don't want to deal with a problem just ignore it and everything will be better.
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I was a human player at the Suffeild Scrimmage for team 177, and it was one of, if the best moment of my robotics experience. Over the course of a day I hit a total of 11 shots with my highest score in a single match being eight, (two three pointers and one two pointer) FIRST took all of the fun out of being a human player, while simultaneously ruining many teams overall strategy of relying on the discs of blizzard time. I am disappointed not only of the shortsightedness of FIRST (I mean what did you expect?) but also how poorly they responded to this problem. Instead of finding a rational solution that wouldn't change the overall flow and style of the game, the instead decided to cut out and ignore the problem all together. Great life lesson FIRST, if you don't want to deal with a problem just ignore it and everything will be better.
Actually, ignoring it would have been FIRST doing nothing.
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Actually, ignoring it would have been FIRST doing nothing.
Your right, this is more like them covering up the problem instead of ignoring it. Thanks for the clarification!
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Your right, this is more like them covering up the problem instead of ignoring it. Thanks for the clarification!
Ya, kind of like instead of cleaning their clothes they just threw them away.
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I was a human player at the Suffeild Scrimmage for team 177, and it was one of, if the best moment of my robotics experience. Over the course of a day I hit a total of 11 shots with my highest score in a single match being eight, (two three pointers and one two pointer) FIRST took all of the fun out of being a human player, while simultaneously ruining many teams overall strategy of relying on the discs of blizzard time. I am disappointed not only of the shortsightedness of FIRST (I mean what did you expect?) but also how poorly they responded to this problem. Instead of finding a rational solution that wouldn't change the overall flow and style of the game, the instead decided to cut out and ignore the problem all together. Great life lesson FIRST, if you don't want to deal with a problem just ignore it and everything will be better.
hmm, i'm not so sure to call it "ignoring a problem' the problem in this case was the potential safety hazard of the crew and the equipment from flying discs. following this train of logic, ignoring the issue would've been to not have any crew or field equipment. Instead, they reduced the safety hazards (in this case the flying discs).
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hmm, i'm not so sure to call it "ignoring a problem' the problem in this case was the potential safety hazard of the crew and the equipment from flying discs. following this train of logic, ignoring the issue would've been to not have any crew or field equipment. Instead, they reduced the safety hazards (in this case the flying discs).
You are right, that was miss worded on my part, it really is more like them covering up the problem instead of dealing with it would be a more accurate statement.
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Great life lesson FIRST, if you don't want to deal with a problem just ignore it and everything will be better.
I'm sorry but I have to strongly disagree. The addressed the problem and fixed it. Yes it might not be a solution that worked for everyone, but Safety is a number one concern above everything we do in FRC. And they addressed the issue. FIRST did what they had to do. They're setting a good example.

I know this is upsetting but if you look at all the logistics FIRST has to deal with, this is the clear only choice they had.
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