Team 1448 Robot "50 points in 50 seconds"

[sgreco]

Originally Posted by sircedric4

Everyone keeps bringing up intense defense on the climb and dumpers and I don't know why. With a climber and dumper you have to make exactly one trip across the field, where most shooters will be making several trips.

You're exactly right. And even if the defense is so good that they score no discs, they're still good for 3rd level climb, which really can't be stopped.

[KrazyCarl92]

Originally Posted by Manual

3.1.5.1 DISC Points
Points are awarded for DISCS SCORED in the GOALS per Table 3-2.

A DISC is considered SCORED in an ALLIANCE’S GOAL if any part of the DISC has crossed through the opening of the GOAL, is in the GOAL at the end of the MATCH, and is not in contact with any ROBOT from that ALLIANCE. GOAL openings are outlined in yellow in Figure 3-2 and Figure 3-3.$@#

You may want to consider having your arm be able to pull away from the dumped discs somehow at the end of the routine so it is unquestionable that they are scored. Wouldn't want them to settle in a position where they are touching the robot and not scoring you points!

[Bwalker]

Originally Posted by hill

This robot, if impeded properly, will score only 20 points instead of 50 points.

That's a pretty significant point swing for only playing defense on a robot for one minute.


Edit:
There seems to be endless discussion of defense on full court shooters

I don't get the 20pts only. If all else fails collecting the discs we can still do a 30pt climb.

[pfreivald]

Awesome and so well done. That is almost exactly the design that we failed to pull off...

[Lucas B.]

I'm pretty sure, at least from what it looks like from your video, that your robot did extend past the 54" diameter. I hope this isn't the case since bag & tag was yesterday.

[Bwalker]

Originally Posted by KrazyCarl92

You may want to consider having your arm be able to pull away from the dumped discs somehow at the end of the routine so it is unquestionable that they are scored. Wouldn't want them to settle in a position were they are touching the robot and not scoring you points!

Thanks for this! I'm very interested in this rule, and I will bring it up to the team.

[Kellen Hill]

Originally Posted by Bwalker

I don't get the 20pts only. If all else fails collecting the discs we can still do a 30pt climb.

20 points is assuming you don't have time to get up to the 30 point level and make the dump.

Any time you can cut off that 50 seconds will only increase your value and your ability to score those 50 points with defense.

[Bwalker]

Originally Posted by Lucas B.

I pretty sure, at least from what it looks like from your video, that your robot did extend past the 54" diameter. I hope this isn't the case since bag & tag was yesterday.

Nope, we're very close at some points, but we're good. Thanks though!

[Justin Montois]

Originally Posted by hill

20 points is assuming you don't have time to get up to the 30 point level and make the dump.

Any time you can cut off that 50 seconds will only increase your value and your ability to score those 50 points with defense.

"Shutting down" robots is always so much more difficult then people realize. With the pinning rules and contact penalties it's really hard to do it effectively. Combine that with the fact that most alliances put their weakest partner on defense usually leads to ineffective defense. Its nice to think you won't lose to this robot but most teams will.

Great job and good luck at your events

[Cory]

Nice job.

Inauspicious music choice though...I was hoping it wouldn't end by falling off the bar

[pfreivald]

Originally Posted by Justin Montois

"Shutting down" robots is always so much more difficult then people realize. With the pinning rules and contact penalties it's really hard to do it effectively. Combine that with the fact that most alliances put their weakest partner on defense usually leads to ineffective defense. Its nice to think you won't lose to this robot but most teams will.

Great job and good luck at your events

Agreed utterly.

We've always been great at defense, but preventing a four-disk acquisition + back to the pyramid in 1:10 would be next to impossible.

[Kellen Hill]

I bring up defense because it seems to be the variable in this robots routine that is the hardest to control and is most likely to chew up significant time (having a good drive train/drivers always helps).

Good defense is never easy, but there are plenty of robots capable of it. I can imagine this robot being the primary scorer for many of its qualification match alliances. You will see good defense played on you this year. You would if I was on the opposing alliance.

[wireties]

Great job! What mechanism moves the hooks up and down? it looks very similar to our (sub-functional) mechanism.

[Bwalker]

Originally Posted by wireties

Great job! What mechanism moves the hooks up and down? it looks very similar to our (sub-functional) mechanism.

A motorized rack and pinion system raises and lowers the arms.

[markmcgary]

"How many shooters can put up 30 points without interference?"

18 points autonomous plus four 3-point shots. 30 points. Piece of cake, defense or no.