Can we still add this?

[uncled1961]

We are a rookie team and with crunch time at the end we didnt get to add our hanger for the pyramid to the robot. If these are fabricated can we add these at and before the event? Im not sure on this and was looking for guidence. I though I read somewhere that once there we can have six hours to work on the robot. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[nighterfighter]

You have a 30 pound withholding allowance.

[Moriarty]

To clarify what the previous poster said:

You can bring to the actual competition 30 lbs at most of fabricated material. This pretty much means anything modified from its off the shelf state. However, COTS (Commercial off the shelf) things such as a motor are not included in the 30 lbs if it is not wired up and attached to your hanger. If you end up being over 30 lbs with the motors or cylinders or anything other COTS part, you can take it off and bring them in as a spare part.

The 30 lbs also does not include your bumpers or your battery.

You can only add these parts once at the actual event. The extra hour allowance is a special case for teams in michigan and mid-atlantic regions where they have district tournaments and would have less time to work than those at other tournaments (not too clear on this, someone please correct me on this if I am wrong).

[ENeyman]

The six extra hours is only for FIM and MAR teams. You can use your six hours any time during the week preceding the event, as long as the shortest chunk of time spent on it is 2 hours. Make sure you note on your bag and tag slip when you took the robot out of the bag to work on it.

[Moriarty]

Just to further clarify to the original poster -- What ENeyman was explaining does not apply to your team as you are participating in the Pittsburgh Regional and not the MAR regional. Just make sure to have everything ready to slap on the robot once you get there. Good Luck!

[kingbrandon14]

Originally Posted by Moriarty

You can bring to the actual competition 30 lbs at most of fabricated material. This pretty much means anything modified from its off the shelf state. However, COTS (Commercial off the shelf) things such as a motor are not included in the 30 lbs if it is not wired up and attached to your hanger. If you end up being over 30 lbs with the motors or cylinders or anything other COTS part, you can take it off and bring them in as a spare part.

Where did you read/hear this rule? I am just wondering because it may apply to my team, and I'm really hoping you're right! Thanks

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by kingbrandon14

Where did you read/hear this rule? I am just wondering because it may apply to my team, and I'm really hoping you're right! Thanks

It's amazing what you'll find in the FIRST Manual

<R21> http://frc-manual.usfirst.org/viewItem/181#4.1.5

[Moriarty]

Originally Posted by kingbrandon14

Where did you read/hear this rule? I am just wondering because it may apply to my team, and I'm really hoping you're right! Thanks

Originally Posted by R21

Teams may bring a maximum of 30 lbs of FABRICATED ITEMS to each event to be used to repair and/or upgrade their ROBOT.

For Teams attending 2-Day Events, these FABRICATED ITEMS may be used during the Robot Access Period and/or brought to the Event, but the total weight may not exceed 30 lbs. FABRICATED ITEMS constructed during the Robot Access Period and bagged with the ROBOT are exempt from this limit.

The OPERATOR CONSOLE, BUMPERS, and any ROBOT battery assemblies (as described in R05-A) are exempt from this limit.

Definition of FABRICATED ITEMS:

Originally Posted by Glossary

FABRICATED ITEM: any COMPONENT or MECHANISM that has been altered, built, cast, constructed, concocted, created, cut, heat treated, machined, manufactured, modified, painted, produced, surface coated, or conjured partially or completely into the final form in which it will be used on the ROBOT.

As long as you do not wire in any parts and you bring them in an unaltered state, they would not be considered fabricated parts. If you alter them such as wiring them onto your hanger / shooter / whatever, they are considered "Fabricated" and would be included in the 30 lbs.

[Bill_B]

Furthering the further clarification (I hope) -
Thursday of the competition, you will open the bag containing the robot in the presence of an official of the competition. They will encourage you to have your robot inspected, but you haven't finished it yet, so you'll bring it back to your pit area for the addition of your withheld mechanisims. When you're done with that, you will wait in line to have your robot inspected in its newfound condition.

Once you have an inspected robot, you may begin to engage in practice matches. There may even be a schedule of them. The elapsed time for this sequence will depend upon how smoothly the installation of your upgrade goes. You should think that process through and have all the resources you will need to do it on hand first thing in the morning.

HTH - keep asking if unclear about any part of this. The vast majority of CD participants are delighted to be able to help.

[FrankJ]

The moral of this thread is to have a plan. Most regionals let you deliver & un bag your robot on Wed evening. Take advantage of this so you will be ready to work Thurs morning rather than spending your time getting your robot cleared. Think through what you are going to change. Make sure you have all you need to accomplish that. Your pit crew should know what they are going to do in what order. Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.

[eddie12390]

Originally Posted by FrankJ

The moral of this thread is to have a plan. Most regionals let you deliver & un bag your robot on Wed evening. Take advantage of this so you will be ready to work Thurs morning rather than spending your time getting your robot cleared. Think through what you are going to change. Make sure you have all you need to accomplish that. Your pit crew should know what they are going to do in what order. Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.

As far as I remember, it is required for you to deliver and unbag if you are a local team.

[FrankJ]

I have never seen that Wed delivery was required. It makes sense for who ever can do it though. It means you get to sleep late on Thur.