NEW: OPR Android App

[jlmcmchl]

Originally Posted by jafisher

Where can I find the options menu? It says I need to open it to update team lists but I cannot find where to open it.

Most android devices have hard buttons for home, search, back and settings. It's the fourth menu that will bring it up. I'll talk to him about adding a button on the page instead of banking it off of the hardware.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by jlmcmchl

Most android devices have hard buttons for home, search, back and settings. It's the fourth menu that will bring it up. I'll talk to him about adding a button on the page instead of banking it off of the hardware.

Newer android phones just have back, home , recent apps buttons. The settings button only appears when an app is set to use it.

[jafisher]

Originally Posted by jlmcmchl

Most android devices have hard buttons for home, search, back and settings. It's the fourth menu that will bring it up. I'll talk to him about adding a button on the page instead of banking it off of the hardware.

Thanks,
I'm using the HTC evo 4g LTE. I only have buttons for home, back and recent apps.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by stingray27

I felt that the processing power would be too much on the phones.

Does anyone know: How much memory and MIPS does a typical android phone have for apps?

[dodar]

Get a hold of 111, they ran FRC Spyder for a few years and it was the perfect app for FIRST. And it was pretty big and never crashed or messed up; atleast to my knowledge it never did.

[Basel A]

Originally Posted by stingray27

From what I have seen (although it uses complete data from the end of the tournament), the OPR will determine who wins the match almost every time. As of score, sometimes it is dead on, sometimes it is off.

I can't speak to mid-event OPRs, but post-event OPR predicts right around 80% of matches correctly. [random] You can actually use OPRs from previous events to predict high-60s to mid-70s percent of matches at a regional or world CMP. [/random]

But to be frank, I'm pretty sure knowing that is totally worthless in answering Andrew's query. I'm really curious as to the answer to that question. Might get into that as a weekend project sometime.

[engunneer]

Originally Posted by Basel A

[random] You can actually use OPRs from previous events to predict high-60s to mid-70s percent of matches at a regional or world CMP. [/random]

in 2009, I ran OPR after the match schedule came out at CMP for my field (Galileo), and it said we'd seed 3rd after 111 and 67. I had to go back an inspect the match schedule to verify, but we were partnered with 67 and 11 in a match each, and never faced them in quals. I swear we had the luckiest match schedule of the field. Ended up seeding 2nd after HOT had a freak loss towards the end of quals. 111 picked 67 and went all the way, IIRC.

OPR data after an event is certainly useful.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Ether

Does anyone know: How much memory and MIPS does a typical android phone have for apps?

Wikipedia puts typical ARM processors used for android anywhere between 5000-15,000 MIPs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instructions_per_second

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

Wikipedia puts typical ARM processors used for android anywhere between 5000-15,000 MIPs.

@stingray27:

That ought to be more than enough to process every match at every event, if you use the right matrix factoring algorithm.

I've got a 9-year-old desktop PC that can load match data, crunch it, and output the OPR results for every match for every event for the whole season in about 12 seconds.

[dodar]

Is an update going to be coming anytime soon because I still cannot update anything on it? So, for the time being, it is just using up space.

[stingray27]

Originally Posted by dodar

Is an update going to be coming anytime soon because I still cannot update anything on it? So, for the time being, it is just using up space.

I am updating some things and adding functionality. An update should be available within the next 2 days! (Sorry busy weekend with the practice robot).

[dodar]

Originally Posted by stingray27

I am updating some things and adding functionality. An update should be available within the next 2 days! (Sorry busy weekend with the practice robot).

Thanks!

[stingray27]

Hey Chief!

Thank you so much for your support so far. I was planning on releasing some additional functionality soon but ran into some bugs and issues described on this thread. I updated the app to the Google Play store mere seconds ago so look for an update within the next few hours. The fixed bugs include:

• Menu Bar eliminated - functions added as buttons to the screen
• Automatic updates if internet connection exists
• Corrected team searching when navigating from the awards pane

I am looking at new functionality but recognized that this needs to work for this upcoming weekend. So look forward to another update soon! Thanks for your support!

[Jaxom]

I'm looking forward to your update; I love the app just for figuring out who's going where. Much handier than going directly to TBA on my phone.

Originally Posted by stingray27

[*]Automatic updates if internet connection exists

Is the behavior above controllable via option? Having a way to *not* have battery-draining apps running on a phone inside buildings that already block reception for many phones would be nice. I can always turn off my network, but it'd be nice to be able to bring up cached data (say, a schedule) without having the app try to update.

[stingray27]

Originally Posted by Jaxom

I'm looking forward to your update; I love the app just for figuring out who's going where. Much handier than going directly to TBA on my phone.



Is the behavior above controllable via option? Having a way to *not* have battery-draining apps running on a phone inside buildings that already block reception for many phones would be nice. I can always turn off my network, but it'd be nice to be able to bring up cached data (say, a schedule) without having the app try to update.

Great point to bring up! A more valid statement would be that I fixed automatic updating on first open. As soon as you update a regional, that data is cached on your phone and is usable from then on out until you update over it.