Is max score even possible?

[Jay O'Donnell]

So after doing the math, I calculate that the maximum score (without penalties) is 345. This score would require...

All 3 robots to start autonomous with three discs and score all of them into the three point goal.
To pick up and score the 4 frisbees on ones side and the two in the middle and score all of them into the three point goal before autonomous ends.
Score all 45 white frisbees during teleop into the 3 point goal.
Score all 6 colored frisbees into the pyramid goal.
Have all three robots hang for 30 points.

All that said, is this even possible? Not even in a match, but on a 3v0 practice field, could the right three robots pull it off?

[cmrnpizzo14]

We are assuming that you will not be scoring the other alliance's 51 discs, correct? Theoretically, those could all miss and your alliance could pick them up and score them to adding 153 to your max score.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14

We are assuming that you will not be scoring the other alliance's 51 discs, correct? Theoretically, those could all miss and your alliance could pick them up and score them to adding 153 to your max score.

I did forget about those, but for now lets assume the answer is no. Although if you feel compelled, say if you think the max score we will see is in fact higher than 345.

[cmrnpizzo14]

In my opinion, nope, no chance that we see a score even close to 345. In fact, I don't think we will see one over 300. I think that until championships, the highest score will be about 180 and then at championships we will see it just over 200, maybe 225. Preparing to eat my words with "the robots up on the mountain" as Koko Ed said still hiding but I don't see that much scoring happening.

[mikemat]

While I don't think we will see it, I have no doubt that it is possible. I bet an alliance capable could be built out of robots who we have seen already.

Yes, it's possible.

[MARS_James]

Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058

All that said, is this even possible? Not even in a match, but on a 3v0 practice field, could the right three robots pull it off?

Yes.

Just from robots seen 1986, 16 and 25/103 if they have the 30 point climber they say they might.

I could see them pulling it off

[OliviaG]

I'm sure it's possible, but I don't think we will see it happen.

[Zebra_Fact_Man]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it: there will never be an alliance that achieves 300 points this season.

Is it possible? Absolutely. Is it likely? No.
Alliance(s) at IRI and Nationals WILL top 250pts, but none will hit 300.

Therefore, no one will achieve the theoretical 345 maximum.

[StAxis]

I think it is very possible that we will see over 300.

Picture this, Alliance captain who shoots from the loading bay with 75% accuracy, which is very achievable by champs. Second robot sweeps up what they miss. Third robot is a climber and dumper, all have 30 point climbers. We have seen three robots capable of composing this alliance already and so I have no doubt it will be possible.

Auto mode they can get all the discs they have preloaded plus the floor = 90
Climbing = 90
That's already 180, all they have to do is score 120 in discs
30 from colored, that's only 90 now, which is only all of the discs from your loading bay in a 2 point goal, and we've seen multiple robots capable of that (180/118 +1986 sweeping up the misses).

I don't think we'll see it until championships but I think it will happen.
I think we'll see up to 155 in the first week, and then I think it's very possible for a second week regional (Orlando in particular) to break 200.

[waialua359]

Originally Posted by cmrnpizzo14

In my opinion, nope, no chance that we see a score even close to 345. In fact, I don't think we will see one over 300. I think that until championships, the highest score will be about 180 and then at championships we will see it just over 200, maybe 225. Preparing to eat my words with "the robots up on the mountain" as Koko Ed said still hiding but I don't see that much scoring happening.

200 will be easily achieved during weeks 1-6 by an alliance.

[Jay O'Donnell]

After thinking about it some more, I found that two parts of scoring max points that will be the most challenging. I believe the two parts that won't let this happen easily are:
3 robots that can all hang for 30 together and fit easily.
Scoring all 6 colored frisbees.

[Bill_B]

Originally Posted by StAxis

I think it is very possible that we will see over 300.
...
50 from colored...

6 x ? = 50

Made me check the rest of your arithmetic. You may be right about the 300 though.

[Robotmmm]

I doubt you will see three 30 point climbs ever. You would need 1 inside and 2 outside climbers alligned in order for all 3 to fit. There is no way I see this ever happening,

I have not seen my next point addressed as of yet.

When you have all 3 bots shooting at the relatively small sapce of the 3 point goal at once, you are bound to have frisbees colliding and causing them both to miss. I think this will prove to be something that really lowers potential scoring.

[Jaxom]

Originally Posted by Robotmmm

I doubt you will see three 30 point climbs ever. You would need 1 inside and 2 outside climbers alligned in order for all 3 to fit. There is no way I see this ever happening,

I don't know about "no way" but I think it highly unlikely that a 2nd outside climber will still be around to get picked. Even slow, 30-point, inside climbers are probably going to get drafted high.

Originally Posted by Robotmmm

When you have all 3 bots shooting at the relatively small sapce of the 3 point goal at once, you are bound to have frisbees colliding and causing them both to miss. I think this will prove to be something that really lowers potential scoring.

Here, I have to disagree with you. I find it unlikely that the teams will be so much in sync that they'll all be doing their shooting at exactly the same time. Plus, the goal is wide enough, and the good shooters are consistent enough, that there's plenty of room for each bot to pick an area of the goal. Good alliances didn't have much trouble last year sharing the 3-point basket; this will be easier.