Is max score even possible?

[Robotmmm]

I doubt you will see three 30 point climbs ever. You would need 1 inside and 2 outside climbers alligned in order for all 3 to fit. There is no way I see this ever happening,

I have not seen my next point addressed as of yet.

When you have all 3 bots shooting at the relatively small sapce of the 3 point goal at once, you are bound to have frisbees colliding and causing them both to miss. I think this will prove to be something that really lowers potential scoring.

[Jaxom]

Originally Posted by Robotmmm

I doubt you will see three 30 point climbs ever. You would need 1 inside and 2 outside climbers alligned in order for all 3 to fit. There is no way I see this ever happening,

I don't know about "no way" but I think it highly unlikely that a 2nd outside climber will still be around to get picked. Even slow, 30-point, inside climbers are probably going to get drafted high.

Originally Posted by Robotmmm

When you have all 3 bots shooting at the relatively small sapce of the 3 point goal at once, you are bound to have frisbees colliding and causing them both to miss. I think this will prove to be something that really lowers potential scoring.

Here, I have to disagree with you. I find it unlikely that the teams will be so much in sync that they'll all be doing their shooting at exactly the same time. Plus, the goal is wide enough, and the good shooters are consistent enough, that there's plenty of room for each bot to pick an area of the goal. Good alliances didn't have much trouble last year sharing the 3-point basket; this will be easier.

[Robotmmm]

Here, I have to disagree with you. I find it unlikely that the teams will be so much in sync that they'll all be doing their shooting at exactly the same time. Plus, the goal is wide enough, and the good shooters are consistent enough, that there's plenty of room for each bot to pick an area of the goal. Good alliances didn't have much trouble last year sharing the 3-point basket; this will be easier.[/quote]

Maybe at Champs, but at most regionals this will come into play.

BTW your robot rocks! Best of the reveals I have seen so far!

[Sean Raia]

Along with the other threads on CD, the optimism I see here is ridiculous.

Even just a score of 250 will be a long-shot. I mean that quite literally, as you would almost certainly need a full court shooter with >80% accuracy.

It is possible but it won't happen.

[Jaxom]

Originally Posted by Sean Raia

Along with the other threads on CD, the optimism I see here is ridiculous.

Even just a score of 250 will be a long-shot. I mean that quite literally, as you would almost certainly need a full court shooter with >80% accuracy.

It is possible but it won't happen.

I agree we're being pretty optimistic, but I still think 200 will happen. Both a 70-point alliance climb and 78-point auto are very realistic, and I'll be very surprised if 78 ends up being the highest auto score for the year. 60-point teleops will happen, and won't need a full-court shooter. 100 teleop is achieveable. Toss in a tech foul or two....

Putting all of that into the same match will be very rare, but I think it'll happen.

[Jay O'Donnell]

I'm bringing this thread back now that we have seen the first two weeks of competition. Many doubted the possibility of 200 points, and that's already been broken by two different alliances in week two. That being said, what do you think is the highest score we will see?

[Gregor]

Not a max score, but the alliance of 4343, 1114, and 2809 used all the white disks behind their alliance station in Q43 at GTR East.

[Yipyapper]

Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058

I'm bringing this thread back now that we have seen the first two weeks of competition. Many doubted the possibility of 200 points, and that's already been broken by two different alliances in week two. That being said, what do you think is the highest score we will see?

Based on what I've seen so far, here's what I think.

The autonomous at Waterloo if 1114/2056/another team could pass 66, what with 2056 making a 42 point and 1114 making a 18 point autonomous and the other making 2, possibly 3 in the top. There's about 66/72.

Then you have climbers; 1114 has a 30 point climber, 2056 has a 10 point climber and, if they can manage to procure a decent third member, a 10 point hang from them. You've got 50 in the bag right there.

Now, assuming the third alliance member can manage 2 disc relays of 4 in the top hoop since they'd probably do things a lot slower. That's 24 points there, bringing the whole thing to about 140-150 or so points. To get the 100, you'd need each of the other 2 to get about 50 points each to reach the 250 mark. 1114 was in a match in GTRE where they scored 16 frisbees, and another where they scored around 18. Those two robots are lightning fast and they both operate different parts of the field for pickup--namely the floor and the feeder station--so they wouldn't get in each other's way. Even though 1114 uses the feeder station, the human player+intake fluidity+speed makes it irrelevant in terms of points per match. In this case, the alliance would net a few points ahead of 260, if not more.

This is assuming the defense is lacking/doesn't exist against them.

And imagine how they (you can sub 1114 and 2056 for other elite bots like the astounding 254/987 combo) could do if they were at champs, where the 3rd bot is still a formidable little machine. 250 seems like a very likely thing to happen for at least one alliance; based on what I've seen, I think 2 or 3 different sets of alliances will break the 250 point barrier.

No comment on breaking 300, I just don't see it.

[Racer26]

211 was done in week 2 by 1114/2056/1325.

250 will be done by a stronger alliance at a deeper event like GTRW or MSC.

300 might happen at CMP or IRI, but not before.

[Ultimatum]

If we do see a score above 300 before champs, look in GTWR, Michigan championships, or at SVR. SVR especially has a very deep field, and it would not be surprising to see a top-seeded alliance pick up another strong robot for their second pick that slipped through the cracks.

A score of 300 is probably very unlikely, but entirely possible. With any sort of decent defense, though, I don't think that we'll ever see it happen. Unless I'm wrong, of course. That happens occasionally.

[Zebra_Fact_Man]

Standing by my initial position: 300 will not be broken this year.
250 will, probably 275, and we just might see above 290 ever so slightly, but 300 will remain untouched through IRI.

Just too much would have to go perfect; not enough room for error.

[nikeairmancurry]

Originally Posted by Ultimatum

If we do see a score above 300 before champs, look in GTWR, Michigan championships, or at SVR. SVR especially has a very deep field, and it would not be surprising to see a top-seeded alliance pick up another strong robot for their second pick that slipped through the cracks.

A score of 300 is probably very unlikely, but entirely possible. With any sort of decent defense, though, I don't think that we'll ever see it happen. Unless I'm wrong, of course. That happens occasionally.

I would claim MSC will be deeper than anything but IRI and Champs...

[rmhooks573]

Originally Posted by Ultimatum

If we do see a score above 300 before champs, look in GTWR, Michigan championships, or at SVR. SVR especially has a very deep field, and it would not be surprising to see a top-seeded alliance pick up another strong robot for their second pick that slipped through the cracks.

A score of 300 is probably very unlikely, but entirely possible. With any sort of decent defense, though, I don't think that we'll ever see it happen. Unless I'm wrong, of course. That happens occasionally.

MSC will for sure have plenty of high scores all through qualifications and elims. I think that it is very likely that we will for sure see 250, and possibly 290+ there with the alliances that will be made.

[Kevin Leonard]

Lets say you're at Quals at either MSC/CMP/IRI- you have two really good teams that got lucky to be together, along with a third, decent bot that could be an alliance captain at a smaller regional. They score amazingly- say 250/260 pts- except that one of the 10 pt climbers was hit by an opposing robot while they were climbing- BAM 300 pts due to the 20pt tech foul and automatic 30 pt climb.
I think an alliance will hit it in Quals, with fouls, but not in elims anywhere nor at any regional.
Just my two cents.