Robot Falls From Pyramid

[Jay O'Donnell]

1831 the screaming eagles fell from about the 2nd or 3rd bar earlier today I believe. I'm not honestly sure if they played in their next match or not.

[jar24]

so has anyone captured any of these scary moments on video and posted them yet?

[Walter Deitzler]

Originally Posted by jar24

so has anyone captured any of these scary moments on video and posted them yet?

There is this one, posted on the FTC Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by LedLover96

There is this one, posted on the FTC Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater

That hurts to watch.

[CASN8R]

Originally Posted by Hallry

It seems like 4451 just fell from the top of the pyramid (30 points) in the Semifinals of Palmetto while trying to dump their colored disks into the pyramid goal. Anyone know how bad the damage was?

We immediately went to the pits and assessed our problems. Lucky our back bumper took most of the impact, but it wasn't a pretty sight to fall eight feet! There wasn't any damage done, but Fat Rat was not pleased that we dropped him. We received tons of support from our own teammates in our finals Alliance (3490 and 1539) and also from the opposing Alliance of the match (11, 245 and 2187) who offered their Alliance time out and all the mechanical support they could provide if we needed it. So after the tweaks, we were able to successfully climb to hang for a 30 pointer in our second elimination match. We didn't win but our robot is now at 100% and ready to go to the Orlando Regional.

Thank You for everyone's concerns!!! And thank you to all the teams that reached out to us in our first FIRST competition as rookies today.

[JoeWithTheSpecs]

Originally Posted by CASN8R

We immediately went to the pits and assessed our problems. Lucky our back bumper took most of the impact, but it wasn't a pretty sight to fall eight feet! There wasn't any damage done, but Fat Rat was not pleased that we dropped him. We received tons of support from our own teammates in our finals Alliance (3490 and 1539) and also from the opposing Alliance of the match (11, 245 and 2187) who offered their Alliance time out and all the mechanical support they could provide if we needed it. So after the tweaks, we were able to successfully climb to hang for a 30 pointer in our second elimination match. We didn't win but our robot is now at 100% and ready to go to the Orlando Regional.

Thank You for everyone's concerns!!! And thank you to all the teams that reached out to us in our first FIRST competition as rookies today.

That was absolutely gut wrenching to see. Was relieved to see you guys come back in the following match. Congrats on getting the Rookie All-Star award!

[Jaxom]

Originally Posted by CASN8R

We received tons of support from our own teammates in our finals Alliance (3490 and 1539) and also from the opposing Alliance of the match (11, 245 and 2187) who offered their Alliance time out and all the mechanical support they could provide if we needed it.

This is a huge reason I love FIRST. I'm curious -- did you use the 11/245/2187 time out? In theory, they're not allowed to do that (rule T19), although it'd be hard to find a robot in a finals that doesn't need repair.

Which brings up an interesting question -- does the end justify the means? Is it OK to lie about (or exaggerate) a problem on your own bot so that you can illegally (but graciously) give the other alliance time to fix theirs?

[Jay O'Donnell]

Originally Posted by Jaxom

This is a huge reason I love FIRST. I'm curious -- did you use the 11/245/2187 time out? In theory, they're not allowed to do that (rule T19), although it'd be hard to find a robot in a finals that doesn't need repair.

Which brings up an interesting question -- does the end justify the means? Is it OK to lie about (or exaggerate) a problem on your own bot so that you can illegally (but graciously) give the other alliance time to fix theirs?

Last year at Battlecry our number 11 seed alliance (Battlecry does a 16 alliance tournament) made it all the way to the finals to meet the heavily favored 1 seed alliance. However, that alliance had one broken robot and no timeouts remaining. Our alliance went to the head ref and asked if we could use our time out for them, and the ref replied that since it was in the spirit of FIRST, he would allow it. One of my favorite moments of being a part of FIRST, hopefully more teams will try to do this if/when teams fall from the pyramid.

[CASN8R]

Originally Posted by Jaxom

This is a huge reason I love FIRST. I'm curious -- did you use the 11/245/2187 time out? In theory, they're not allowed to do that (rule T19), although it'd be hard to find a robot in a finals that doesn't need repair.

Which brings up an interesting question -- does the end justify the means? Is it OK to lie about (or exaggerate) a problem on your own bot so that you can illegally (but graciously) give the other alliance time to fix theirs?

We had not used our Alliance's time out yet and so we used our own, but 11/245/2187 made it clear that if we needed 6 more minutes, in the spirit of FIRST, the were glad to provide.
I also love FIRST now! It's amazing to experience such comradery with EVERY team. As a former football player(last season was my last) I've never felt so much joy from helping and being helped by teams we've competed against. Thank you Dean and Woody for creating this environment in hopes to make the world a Better place.

[GaryVoshol]

The tournament section rules don't allow back-to-back time-outs. You can't have 12 minutes of time. The rules also say that you can't "give" your time-out to another alliance.

But there's nothing that prevents an alliance from taking a time-out for any reason. If it so happens that your alliance doesn't need as much work as the other does, so what?

[EricH]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

But there's nothing that prevents an alliance from taking a time-out for any reason.

Getting a little extra charge in the batteries is a pretty good reason, right? And if you happen to be helping out your opponents, so much the better.

[colin340]

our fall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPgdh...IfKg& index=4

[jbsmithtx]

I do believe that 4206 has a video of team 16 falling. Let's just say a bit of tough defense caused a couple problems later on for team 16's climber. Our apologies.

[MooreteP]

Two Robot Fall videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYr2-DdcpkU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr1YEn-Ra-Y

From BAE Granite State Regional.

Descriptions are below the video.

[LostWolf]

Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058

1831 the screaming eagles fell from about the 2nd or 3rd bar earlier today I believe. I'm not honestly sure if they played in their next match or not.

It was our last match anyways, but our bot is just fine. Almost no damage taken actually, pretty surprising.