Go to Post something i thought was impossible just happened: Brandon's awesomeness level has grown exponentially! just when you think he's at his peak, he does something new and extremely cool for CD. - Winged Wonder [more]
Home
Go Back   Chief Delphi > FIRST > General Forum
CD-Media   CD-Spy  
portal register members calendar search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read FAQ rules

 
Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-03-2013, 13:26
SciBorg Dave SciBorg Dave is offline
Registered User
AKA: Dave Tharp
FRC #5920 (VIKotics)
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Palouse WA
Posts: 209
SciBorg Dave is a splendid one to beholdSciBorg Dave is a splendid one to beholdSciBorg Dave is a splendid one to beholdSciBorg Dave is a splendid one to beholdSciBorg Dave is a splendid one to beholdSciBorg Dave is a splendid one to behold
Joy Stick vs. Game Controller

Our team has been talking about using game controllers or joy sticks.
We were wondering the number of teams that use either and why.
Reply With Quote
  #2   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-03-2013, 13:42
BigJ BigJ is offline
Registered User
AKA: Josh P.
FRC #1675 (Ultimate Protection Squad)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Rookie Year: 2007
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 947
BigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond reputeBigJ has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Joy Stick vs. Game Controller

My advice: Let your drivers choose. Both have pros and cons that end up being negligible in my opinion to driver comfort.
Reply With Quote
  #3   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-03-2013, 13:59
CalTran's Avatar
CalTran CalTran is offline
MST Rolla Senior
FRC #2410 (BV CAPS Metal Mustang Robotics)
Team Role: College Student
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Posts: 2,387
CalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond reputeCalTran has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Joy Stick vs. Game Controller

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJ View Post
My advice: Let your drivers choose. Both have pros and cons that end up being negligible in my opinion to driver comfort.
This. It's all varied from drive to driver. Let the driver pick something that (s)he finds intuitive, and let them get practice.
Personal opinion? I picked a gamepad (After some persuasion) and loved the change. I got our programmers to set up the controls to the robot to match that of Borderlands 2 Forward/Backwards/Strafe on the left stick, rotate on the right, shoot is right trigger, load is x, and a few other tweaks.
__________________
Team 2410 thinks KISSing is amazing! Keep It Super Safe!
  • "You know you've been in robotics too long when you start talking to your tools." "Well, you've been in robotics CLEARLY too long when they start talking back"
  • Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but you don't know why. On our team, theory and practice comes together - nothing works and nobody knows why.
MMR 2410 Student (2010 - 2013) | MMR 2410 Mentor (2013 - Present)
FTC Game Announcer / EmCee (2014 - Present) | FRC EmCee (2015 - Present) | FRC Referee (2016) | FTC Referee (2017)
Academic Student (Forever)
Reply With Quote
  #4   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-03-2013, 14:19
TheMadCADer TheMadCADer is offline
Registered User
no team
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Austin
Posts: 218
TheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant futureTheMadCADer has a brilliant future
Re: Joy Stick vs. Game Controller

Definitely leave it up to the drivers, because only their opinion matters, really. Plus, there are lots of other things you can use. I know that 16's driver (not sure if still on the team, but this was just a couple years ago at most) used a steering wheel, just because that's what he liked to use with their swerve drive.
Reply With Quote
  #5   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-03-2013, 15:06
jbsmithtx's Avatar
jbsmithtx jbsmithtx is offline
FIRST Fanatic
AKA: Josh Smith
FRC #4206 (RoboVikes)
Team Role: Engineer
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 91
jbsmithtx is a jewel in the roughjbsmithtx is a jewel in the roughjbsmithtx is a jewel in the rough
Re: Joy Stick vs. Game Controller

Agreeing on this. I personally like the joysticks for their better drivetrain control (farther pull distance) although I do know some teams who prefer game pads. Driver style/ comfortablity plays a big part.
Reply With Quote
  #6   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-03-2013, 16:54
G Fawkes G Fawkes is offline
Registered User
FRC #1290
Team Role: Mentor
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Rookie Year: 2010
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 28
G Fawkes is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Joy Stick vs. Game Controller

We switched to a PS2 style controller a couple of years ago when our last joystick died. Not many students have much joystick experience but the gamepad is second nature to them.
__________________
Si Se Puede
Reply With Quote
  #7   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-03-2013, 16:57
Whippet's Avatar
Whippet Whippet is offline
MIT Class of 2020
AKA: Luis Trueba
FRC #4301 (New Tech Narcissists)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Rookie Year: 2011
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 1,187
Whippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond reputeWhippet has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Yahoo to Whippet
Re: Joy Stick vs. Game Controller

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMadCADer View Post
Definitely leave it up to the drivers, because only their opinion matters, really. Plus, there are lots of other things you can use. I know that 16's driver (not sure if still on the team, but this was just a couple years ago at most) used a steering wheel, just because that's what he liked to use with their swerve drive.
Having been at Hub City, I can confirm that they do still use a steering wheel.
__________________
2010: FRC 3043, Build Assistant
2011: FRC 3043, Head of Minibot subteam; FLL 12762, Team Captain
2012: FRC 3043, Electrical; FLL 12762, Team Captain; FTC 5670, Team Captain
2013: FRC 4301, Electrical, Team Co-Captain
2014: FRC 4301, Electrical/Programming, Team Co-Captain
2015: FRC 4301, Electrical/Programming, Team Captain
2016: FRC 4301, Chief Technical Officer; FTC 10860, 10861, and 11004: Mentor. Winner, Hub City Regional (3310 & 4063)
Reply With Quote
  #8   Spotlight this post!  
Unread 03-03-2013, 22:29
z_beeblebrox's Avatar
z_beeblebrox z_beeblebrox is offline
Custom User Title
AKA: Cal
FRC #4183 (Bit Buckets)
Team Role: Alumni
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Rookie Year: 2012
Location: Cambridge MA
Posts: 811
z_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond reputez_beeblebrox has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Joy Stick vs. Game Controller

4183 and other successful Arizona teams like 842 have modified an RC car pistol grip controller for the driver and used a gamepad or custom control box for the operator.
__________________
2012 Utah Regional Rookie All-Star
2013 Phoenix Regional Judge's Award for "design process and prototyping"
2014 Hub City Regional Quality Award, Arizona Regional Excellence in Engineering Award
2015 Arizona East Regional Creativity Award, Winner
2016 Arizona North Regional Finalist, Arizona West Excellence in Engineering Award, Finalist
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 21:43.

The Chief Delphi Forums are sponsored by Innovation First International, Inc.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi