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Re: Real-Time Scoring Not Working?

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo View Post
Good choice of words Gary: Unfortunate. I am sure everyone had hoped it would work, but that's just not how it works in the real world.

I can't do better; anyone who can should do so before the end of the season and give one to FIRST for their use. Hey, maybe you'll end up on the GDC...
I've got a better word than unfortunate. Unacceptable.
This is far from the first time that FIRST has screwed up real time scoring. It's a complete joke at this point. To has real time scores as far off as these are completely erodes the public and team's trust in FIRST and the GDC. Between this and the field delays, I actually had a student ask me something along the lines of "how can such smart people screw up so badly?" This isn't something that we should just shrug off. Just about everyone saw this coming from miles away, so why FIRST thought it would be an acceptable solution is beyond me.

And it goes beyond the load sensors. As someone already pointed out, the FMS is displaying odd scored in autonomous. Odd scores aren't even possible in autonomous. "61" was a frequent score for the blue alliance during autonomous at Hatboro-Horsham. You can score 60 points in auto. You can score 62 points in auto. You cannot score 61.

As for a better option, humans. That's what they're using now to get accurate scores, might as well use it for real-time as well. Aside of 2010 and 2012, the only accurate real time scoring FRC has ever used has been input by humans. 2004 was humans. 2005 was humans. 2007 was humans. 2008 was humans. 2011 was humans. The only time human RTS has been lacking was in 2003 and 2009, but automated scoring wouldn't have faired any better in those chaotic games.

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We counted and recorded the discs after auton was over. Those counts were easy because the most you could have was 9, and it was easy to count them coming in, and from looking up into the box. The person at the field table also counted as they went in (there was a team of people for red and for blue alliance ends).
The max in 9? Tell that to 365, 103, and 2559. They scored 11 in SF2-2 at Hatboro-Horsham.
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