OPR after Week One Events

[ttldomination]

I forget, what's the difference between OPR and CCWM now?

[Grim Tuesday]

1.) Pyramid range shooters lead AUTO
2.) Full court shooters lead TELEOP
3.) Climbers lead CLIMB points

No surprises here.

Though I would expect this to change in the coming weeks. As defense adapts to these playstyles, I think pyramid range shooters teleop points will only climb (no pun intended) and as the powerhouses unveil, jacks of all trades will start to dominate climbing.

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta

Thanks Ed for setting this up. We look good in numbers.

Well you also won your event so I guess that helps

Originally Posted by ttldomination

I forget, what's the difference between OPR and CCWM now?

Calculated Contribution to the Winning Margin (if you have the file look at cell F31 on the query sheet)

[ttldomination]

Originally Posted by PayneTrain

Calculated Contribution to the Winning Margin (if you have the file look at cell F31 on the query sheet)

I see that. My question still stands, how are the two metrics different?

- Sunny G.

[Siri]

Originally Posted by ttldomination

I see that. My question still stands, how are the two metrics different?

- Sunny G.

It's intended to take defensive contributions into account by using the winning margin rather than the points scored. Ed's got a thing on the math; the first file on the CD Media page he linked.



Wow. I cannot believe what I'm seeing right now. This is so cool! /dork


Thanks, Ed and Akash.

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by Siri

Thanks, Ed and Akash.

Quick correction: Ed and Aaron* My post was quoting Aaron.

1640 looked solid at Hatboro, I'm happy a couple of the teams on Aaron's lists are from MAR.

[Jaxom]

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday

1.) Pyramid range shooters lead AUTO
2.) Full court shooters lead TELEOP
3.) Climbers lead CLIMB points

Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

[vikesrock777]

Originally Posted by Jaxom

Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

610 is capable of shooting from the pyramid as well as full court shooting. Both are showcased in this video from their final match of the weekend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNDNXdb0Vy8

I agree with what you're getting at though, you don't have to be a full court shooter to put up some of the best teleop numbers, 1986 being a prime example of this.

[Jaxom]

Originally Posted by vikesrock777

610 is capable of shooting from the pyramid as well as full court shooting. Both are showcased in this video from their final match of the weekend.

Very nice; I guess I don't watch enough video. I wonder if I can find someone to pay me to do so...pesky day job.

Did they start getting blocked, and just do pyramid during the finals? Or did I see just the aberrations?

[MagiChau]

Originally Posted by Jaxom

Very nice; I guess I don't watch enough video. I wonder if I can find someone to pay me to do so...pesky day job.

Did they start getting blocked, and just do pyramid during the finals? Or did I see just the aberrations?

From my interpretation if they thought they could shoot without being impeded they would do full court shots. Otherwise, they will do pyramid shots. Their full court shooter is deadly accurate when they do run it though.

[biancs15]

Originally Posted by MagiChau

From my interpretation if they thought they could shoot without being impeded they would do full court shots. Otherwise, they will do pyramid shots. Their full court shooter is deadly accurate when they do run it though.

At BAE, our main strategy was actually to run cycles from the feeder station to the pyramid. With no defence played, we were able to run 7 cycles (shoot 28 discs) into the high goal and low hang. We did this in finals match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvjdN...IM554Q&index=7

We only demonstrated our full court shots during 2 matches, where we were fairly certain that no defence would be played on us. However, when defence was played, it turned out that we gain more points through running cycles than with the long bombs.

Thanks for the kind words!!

-Austin

[Grim Tuesday]

Originally Posted by Jaxom

Except 610 (at least from the videos I saw) and 1986 are both pyramid shooters, and are numbers 2 & 3 on the teleop list.

Agreed, some of the best pyramid shooters can lead teleop but 3173 (exclusive) and 610 (optional) were both full court shooters as far as I know. Like I said, I expect this to change the more prevelant defense gets. 3003 absolutely shut down 3173 in the seminfials at FLR with their arm and anyone tall could do that. However, qualifications are luck of the draw, so expect full court shooters to be seeding high as they won't always have a competent defender against them.

[Alpha Beta]

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta

Top 10 autonomous OPR

1986	28.7
70	22.9
11	16.4
1918	16.4
3501	16.3
2590	16.1
133	16
4124	15.6
3974	15.5
3656	15.2

Just watched the Kettering videos. Looks like 70 had some similar autonomous ideas to our team. Who else on this list was consistently scoring extra autonomous disks? It was more rare than I thought it would be week 1.

Hearing those shots hit right above the driver station over and over again before they ever touch the sticks has to leave quite an impression with the opposite alliance.

Originally Posted by btslaser

This past weekend at Hub City we were up against 1986 in the semi-finals. When they single-handily rain 42 pts in 15 seconds right above your head there is a psychological impact not to mention the 24 pts you need to make up.

[Wayne TenBrink]

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta

Just watched the Kettering videos. Looks like 70 had some similar autonomous ideas to our team. Who else on this list was consistently scoring extra autonomous disks? It was more rare than I thought it would be week 1.

We didn't at Traverse City but fully expect to be doing so at West MI. 2474 struggled with it early so they aren't on this list, but they were shooting more than 3 later on. I am also a bit surpised at how rare this has been so far, considering how valuable and relatively simple it is to do.

Gotta love them Martians...