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Re: KOP pneumatic parts?? Where did they go

Caught by working under previous year's rules again.

So, Q535 suggests that you DO have to account for items on a previous year's KoP list that aren't duplicated on the 2013 checklists.

Q469 suggests that quantities don't apply to KoP items. If it's on the list, it's free in any quantity.

I can accept all that till you try to meld Q469 with the text definition of KoP. Anything bought with a PDV is a KoP item. There are no quantity limits associated with KoP items. Ergo, I use my AM PDV to buy a single Revolution 2 swerve module at $330. It is now a KoP item. I buy 3 more, and they're $0 on my BOM because the original one is a KoP item?

I'm not trying to lawyer the rules here, my team is well under budget using my more restrictive original interpretation. I'm just not certain that the current rulings are consistent. Or, if they are, it's nearly impossible to go over budget.
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Re: KOP pneumatic parts?? Where did they go

this is all confusing.
So, where does a lead screw from a previous years KOP fit in. $0??>
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Re: KOP pneumatic parts?? Where did they go

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this is all confusing.
So, where does a lead screw from a previous years KOP fit in. $0??>
If it is this one, which was available this year on First choice, it's a current KOP item. http://www.andymark.com/FIRST-Choice-p/fc13-050.htm
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Re: KOP pneumatic parts?? Where did they go

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Q469 suggests that quantities don't apply to KoP items. If it's on the list, it's free in any quantity.

I can accept all that till you try to meld Q469 with the text definition of KoP. Anything bought with a PDV is a KoP item. There are no quantity limits associated with KoP items. Ergo, I use my AM PDV to buy a single Revolution 2 swerve module at $330. It is now a KoP item. I buy 3 more, and they're $0 on my BOM because the original one is a KoP item?
I'm not sure if it was the right thing to do, but here is what made the most sense to me, and what 1519 did, for Product Donation Vouchers (PDVs) in our Bill of Materials (BoM) -- we listed the price of items we purchased with the PDV, and then included a "negative" line item for the PDV itself.

In other words, since our team received the $450 AndyMark PDV instead of a KitBot, I listed all of our AndyMark items on the robot with their normal purchasing price (even the ones that we got "for free" with the PDV), ensured that the total was over $450, and then made a line item on the Bill of Materials for "Andy Mark Product Donation Voucher, -$450.00" This makes it entirely clear to anybody looking at the BOM as to what was done.

I did the same for the other "credit amount" PDVs we used, such as BaneBots and Inventables.
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