2013 Greater Toronto East Regional

[Hallry]

Does anyone have video recorded or pictures of 1114 and 2056 for those that have the webcast blocked for them?

[JamesBrown]

Originally Posted by Bongle

Was watching 1114 and 2056. In 1114's first match, they were at best ~24 seconds between scorings. 2056 was about 22 seconds between unloadings. Seemed to be more defense played on 1114's match though and their loader wasn't perfect, so maybe they can get that down to 20 seconds per 4 discs.

2056 showed in their second match how quickly they can score. 1114 seems just good (Really says more about how high 1114 has set the standard for themselves) However I have a gut feeling that we are not seeing their full hand. I have a feeling 1114 wants to shoot full court, however without a top tier floor loading bot on their alliance many of those discs are wasted. They kind of remind me of 469 (I think) when they had the hang and redirect bot (2010? Im old and memory is the first thing to go.). They are just good enough to keep winning when not playing theirr strategy, but nearly unstoppable with the right partners.

I am basing this on watching exactly one match each for these robots, but I think that tomorrow when 1114 and 2056 play together you will see what 1114 was built for, I think that will be shooting an absurd number of discs full court then performing a 50 point hang/dump with 2056 cleaning up the floor (and probably setting the single robot scoring record).

[Jonathan Norris]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Does anyone have video recorded or pictures of 1114 and 2056 for those that have the webcast blocked for them?

The webcast is being live archived, you can see the matches here: http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archive.php?id=61352321

[Natatatalies]

Originally Posted by Hallry

Does anyone have video recorded or pictures of 1114 and 2056 for those that have the webcast blocked for them?

This is all I could manage. I hope it helps.

[jspatz1]

I think we are seeing why 1114 and 2056 made their design choices. They are built to play together with complimentary capabilities.

[engunneer]

Originally Posted by jspatz1

I think we are seeing why 1114 and 2056 made their design choices. They are built to play together with complimentary capabilities.

That's an interesting take on strategy for this year. Makes an alternative to the fraternal twin strategies. The "Sim"biosis strategy?

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by jspatz1

I think we are seeing why 1114 and 2056 made their design choices. They are built to play together with complimentary capabilities.

Qualifications match 59 will prove this, of true.

[jspatz1]

One clears the floor, one slot loads. One hangs from the lower bar, one climbs the corner. One does the center 7-disc auto, one shoots 3 from the wing.

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by jspatz1

One clears the floor, one slot loads. One hangs from the lower bar, one climbs the corner. One does the center 7-disc auto, one shoots 3 from the wing.

I agree with you there, and you're probably correct. It should be an interesting match. To bad there isn't a match pitting the two against each other.

[Alpha Beta]

Originally Posted by jspatz1

One clears the floor, one slot loads. One hangs from the lower bar, one climbs the corner. One does the center 7-disc auto, one shoots 3 from the wing.

Interesting theory considering neither one has to qualify for champs this year, and have no guarantee of being placed in the same division. Odd coincidence though.

[Jay O'Donnell]

I noticed in match #1 that 1114's human player was having trouble feeding the robot due to Frisbees not entering the robot. Does anyone know if something is wrong with the slot or is it a design flaw? (or something else?)

[Peyton Yeung]

Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058

I noticed in match #1 that 1114's human player was having trouble feeding the robot due to Frisbees not entering the robot. Does anyone know if something is wrong with the slot or is it a design flaw? (or something else?)

I just saw the match before lunch and it would appear they have fixed that as they quickly loaded 4 in about 2-3 seconds.

Peyton

[Jay O'Donnell]

Originally Posted by Tubatroopa

I just saw the match before lunch and it would appear they have fixed that as they quickly loaded 4 in about 2-3 seconds.

Peyton

Ok thanks for the update! Got to hand it to these teams that have robots this good in their first regional (coughcough 1114, 2056, 118 coughcough)

[jspatz1]

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta

Interesting theory considering neither one has to qualify for champs this year, and have no guarantee of being placed in the same division. Odd coincidence though.

Because they do not need to qualify they do not need to design to win alone. I think they went all-in on an Einstein strategy. Looks like 1114 got the short end of the deal so far.

[lemiant]

Originally Posted by jspatz1

Because they do not need to qualify they do not need to design to win alone. I think they went all-in on an Einstein strategy. Looks like 1114 got the short end of the deal so far.

But they have no way of guaranteeing that they are in the same division. In fact in 75% of cases they are in different divisions. That's what makes collusion implausible.