What did we learn from week 2 of the 2013 season?

[sdcantrell56]

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

Give me a robot capable of quick full court shots, accurate from the pyramid, and a 50pt hang and I'll take it.

The mythical unicorn bot

[iVanDuzer]

Originally Posted by Racer26

2009: 348 teams at CMP, 12 Canadians (3.4%), 1/12 Einstein Canadians (8.3%)

There were no Canadian teams on Einstein in 2009. 188 came the closest as Curie finalists, but they lost to 217 + 68 + 247.

On topic, the one thing I learned at week 2 is that defenders are best equipped when they can squeeze under the pyramid (I'm looking at you, 4476). Minus, of course, the presence of a full-court shooter.

[Craig Roys]

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

I think they just have to be more than one dimensional, if they are not a second round pick.

Our biggest issue was that once we were forced out of the loading zone, we were not that effective.

BUT...a full court shooter does require almost 100% commitment of a defender, if they can line up and shoot really quickly. You know the damage that can be done if they are left alone.

Give me a robot capable of quick full court shots, accurate from the pyramid, and a 50pt hang and I'll take it.

I agree...a full court specialist will struggle, but a multidimensional full court shooter can be very successful - especially if they can line up quick a fire off a couple shots before a defender gets there.

[Kellen Hill]

Originally Posted by Tanis

For those who weren't at Lake Superior: 2220 (#1 seed) picked 2177 as their first alliance partner. 2177 was a stellar team that was able to consistently climb to the top of the pyramid and score 3-4 frisbees by the end of qualifications.

Unfortunately, the #8 seed proved a very challenging defense to overcome. 2177 couldn't get to the feeding station to load up on colored frisbees, and in my opinion spent a little too much time trying to get those frisbees (kudos for coming up with a strategy and sticking to it though).

So what I learned in week 2 is that it isn't too difficult to block the feeding station. In general, defense is playing a far larger role in this game than I thought it would. No offensive strategy is without an opposing defensive strategy.

I can think of a 48 point strategy that is indefensible.

I'm wondering why some teams think it's easier to be a 50 point climber/dumper instead of a 48 point auton/climb. Why cross the field when you can stay protected under the pyramid the whole match (as long as team 48 isn't at your regional)?

Who knows, maybe those two extra points are worth it...

[Adam Freeman]

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56

The mythical unicorn bot

Only if it also had floor pickup and a 7 disc auton.

[MrForbes]

Originally Posted by Craig Roys

I agree...a full court specialist will struggle, but a multidimensional full court shooter can be very successful - especially if they can line up quick a fire off a couple shots before a defender gets there.

I thought I saw 254's robot "Overkill" doing that in San Diego once, but I didn't get a chance to watch many matches....and those that I did see, are kind of a blur now.

[Alpha Beta]

Originally Posted by Kellen Hill

I can think of a 48 point strategy that is indefensible.

I'm wondering why some teams think it's easier to be a 50 point climber/dumper instead of a 48 point auton/climb. Why cross the field when you can stay protected under the pyramid the whole match (as long as team 48 isn't at your regional)?

Who knows, maybe those two extra points are worth it...

I can think of an indefensible 72 point strategy. Don't think we'll be skipping the teleop phase to carry it out though.

[Adam Freeman]

Originally Posted by EricLeifermann

Wouldn't we all Adam, wouldn't we all.

We're getting closer. Just didn't have time to get it all working at Waterford.

We struggled with the quick accuracy part. And of course the climber was not fully installed.

[EricLeifermann]

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

We're getting closer. Just didn't have time to get it all working at Waterford.

We struggled with the quick accuracy part. And of course the climber was not fully installed.

We had the quick and accurate part from the pyramid, we had the quick from the feeder station, need to perfect the accurate from the feeder station though. Should be good to go for our next comp.

[sdcantrell56]

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

Only if it also had floor pickup and a 7 disc auton.

O I just assumed floor pickup was part of the equation. Why not go for it all.

[Tom Line]

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman

Give me a robot capable of quick full court shots, accurate from the pyramid, and a 50pt hang and I'll take it.

I remember designing that robot. It was twice as heavy as allowed, twice as big, and used about 20 motors.

Of course, Robonauts pulled it off.... but they're the robonauts. (Can they put the colored discs in yet?)

[Kellen Hill]

Originally Posted by Alpha Beta

I can think of an indefensible 72 point strategy. Don't think we'll be skipping the teleop phase to carry it out though.

I'm sure your opponents would prefer it if you did

Good luck at KC this weekend!

[sdcantrell56]

Originally Posted by Kellen Hill

I can think of a 48 point strategy that is indefensible.

I'm wondering why some teams think it's easier to be a 50 point climber/dumper instead of a 48 point auton/climb. Why cross the field when you can stay protected under the pyramid the whole match (as long as team 48 isn't at your regional)?

Who knows, maybe those two extra points are worth it...

Sounds like you being down in georgia is going to make competition a bit more interesting now. We designed around this exact scenario.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by MrForbes

I thought I saw 254's robot "Overkill" doing that in San Diego once, but I didn't get a chance to watch many matches....and those that I did see, are kind of a blur now.

No full court shooting for us.

[sdcantrell56]

Originally Posted by Cory

No full court shooting for us.

Us either. Seems like the optimum shooter for full field isn't necessarily the optimum set-up for quick and consistent pyramid shots.