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Re: California Rankings
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Re: California Rankings
Looking forward to the day when district points are interchangeable from region to region (you go where ever you want to and the points you accumulate add up regardless).
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Re: California Rankings
Only one team from California played in week 3, team 1836 traveling all the way to Israel. Here are the updated rankings.
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Rank Team Points
1 1678 68
2 254 61
3 840 59
4 2485 57
5 3501 56
6 3970 54
7 2984 52
8 295 51
9 1538 48
10 399 45
11 3476 42
12 589 41
12 701 41
12 973 41
15 1323 39
16 670 36
17 1138 34
18 1458 33
19 2643 31
19 4322 31
21 4583 30
22 192 29
22 1967 29
24 1671 28
25 4014 27
26 1159 26
27 294 25
27 1422 25
27 4159 25
30 649 24
31 599 23
31 3303 23
33 3495 22
33 4135 22
35 1836 21
35 2827 21
35 3669 21
38 2496 20
39 841 19
39 2543 19
39 3256 19
39 4139 19
43 2339 18
43 3925 18
45 2493 16
45 3255 16
47 2135 13
47 4486 13
49 812 12
49 1266 12
49 2102 12
49 3041 12
49 4543 12
49 4695 12
55 1700 11
56 1197 10
56 1280 10
56 1622 10
56 2085 10
56 2813 10
56 3189 10
56 3250 10
56 3486 10
56 3647 10
56 3965 10
56 4619 10
56 4738 10
68 675 8
68 702 8
68 980 8
68 1515 8
68 1572 8
68 2029 8
68 2193 8
68 2761 8
68 3021 8
68 3341 8
68 3408 8
68 3704 8
68 3849 8
68 3952 8
68 4616 8
83 1160 6
83 2658 6
83 2839 6
83 3453 6
83 3749 6
83 4160 6
83 4161 6
83 4711 6
91 581 4
91 1661 4
91 3128 4
91 3967 4
91 4785 4
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Re: California Rankings
I started to do this for MO & KS teams but gave up because I didn't have time to slog through all of the various places I'd need to get all of the information. Do you have a convenient source of data all in one place, or reasonably automatic?
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Re: California Rankings
Joe,
In Michigan, we only count the first two district events for points. |
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I use the FIRST rankings page for event the W/L/T points. I then use the 2013 Alliance selection thread for the elimination results. That is 24 different manual assignments for pick position, and 12 different manual assignments for elimination finish. Then I do the awards manually, which probably takes the longest, but isn't too bad. It's not more then half an hour per event. Next week will be the hardest, 2 CA events and CA teams attending 3 regionals outside CA. |
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Did you build a spreadsheet with lookup tables for the points, or did you calculate manually? If the former, care to share? I might try again now that I'm recovered (mostly) from the weekend. It'd be a great excuse not to start on our taxes.... |
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Manual. At this point, I'm not sure that it would be much faster to put in lookup tables, as the slow part would be getting the data from the different sources and putting it in the format the lookup tables expect. I'm not sure what FiM does, it's either manual, or it's done in another spreadsheet and then only the values are posted. |
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I was thinking of having columns to specify each point type, and putting the number of times the team got that in the appropriate cell. Then have lookups do the math. But maybe manually would be the right way to go for this. It would be interesting to know how FiM & MAR do this; if they have a good way it only makes sense to let the rest of the soon-to-be-districized regions know. |
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I have no experience with web scraping so here's the automatic approach I thought of first: Because 2834 scouting databases include event results, you could grab qual W-L-T records automatically. But differentiating 1st pick from 2nd pick is problematic to do automatically in any fashion. Awards seems impossible to do automatically without scraping, but I can't imagine it'd be complicated. The awards are always in the same order and the tables are formatted pretty regularly. |
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I have another spreadsheet that I use to get all the data prepared and then copied to a separate file for publication. Nothing is done manually because it is so easy to introduce errors. But it is not just pressig one button either. Award points are calculated automatically by getting data from FIRST website and through a converter (Excel lookup table) it will put the team number into the correct awards. However some events award no judges awards and some award 2 judges awards so I still have to double check. I also use a pivot table to take care of teams winning more than one award so there is no manual adding of award points. 1st and 2nd round picks info are not available through FIRST website even though we tried to ask for it for many years. The FTAs for each district put the Alliance Selection report in a Google doc folder that is shared with me so I can retrieve them when I run the report. Again lookup tables are used so there is no manual typing in team numbers and selection order. I have macros and Excel formulas to detect and take care of substitutions automatically so it is not done manually but I have to feed that information in. Tiebreak is the hardest part. It requires many sheets and formulas and is complicated. But it is fully automated. All other information I already have in the Team2834 Scouting database. I have a macro to output the three highest match scores from each event and then use that in tiebreak calculations. I don't mind sharing the spreadsheet with other regions with the person who has to do this job but it is not very easy to understand. You have to be very knowledgeable in Excel to figure out what I was trying to do. I wrote it for my own use and wasn't planned to be user friendly. Also if there are different number of events, different number of teams extra would require extensive reprogramming of the formulas which is very time consuming to setup although it is a one time thing each year. It would be easier if someone knowledgeable enough in Excel to develop their own spreadsheet rather than modifying mine. I would certainly be willing to help. Last edited by Ed Law : 18-03-2013 at 21:34. |
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Our team coach showed us this thread which we were very excited about, however I think there may be some minor miscalculations (unless i'm forgetting something), from our record at CVR it looks like our score should be 60, not 68.
We had 7 wins (14 points), 6th seeded alliance captain (11 points), won the regional as alliance captain (30 points), and received the innovation in control award (5 points). Please correct me if I'm wrong. ![]() |
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Here are the corrected rankings Code:
Rank Team Points
1 254 61
2 1678 60
2 3501 60
4 2485 57
5 840 55
6 3970 54
7 2984 52
8 1538 48
9 295 45
9 399 45
11 973 43
12 3476 42
13 589 41
13 701 41
15 670 38
16 1323 37
16 1458 37
18 1138 34
19 2643 31
19 4322 31
19 1967 31
22 4583 30
23 192 29
24 1671 28
25 4014 27
26 1159 26
26 649 26
28 294 25
28 1422 25
28 4159 25
31 599 23
31 3303 23
31 3669 23
34 3495 22
34 4135 22
36 1836 21
36 2827 21
38 2496 20
39 841 19
39 2543 19
39 4139 19
42 2339 18
42 3925 18
44 3256 17
45 2493 16
45 3255 16
47 2135 15
48 4486 13
49 812 12
49 1266 12
49 2102 12
49 3041 12
49 4543 12
49 4695 12
49 2085 12
56 1700 11
57 1197 10
57 1280 10
57 1622 10
57 2813 10
57 3189 10
57 3250 10
57 3486 10
57 3647 10
57 3965 10
57 4619 10
57 4738 10
68 675 8
68 702 8
68 980 8
68 1515 8
68 1572 8
68 2029 8
68 2193 8
68 2761 8
68 3021 8
68 3341 8
68 3408 8
68 3704 8
68 3849 8
68 3952 8
68 4616 8
83 1160 6
83 2658 6
83 2839 6
83 3453 6
83 3749 6
83 4160 6
83 4161 6
83 4711 6
91 581 4
91 1661 4
91 3128 4
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Week 4 Rankings
After week 4, 30 California teams have yet to play, 160 have played 1 event, and 26 have played 2 events.
I have added calculations of each team's maximum event score and average event score, to go along with the sum of the team's first two events. Team 973 is has the highest after two events (43 at Madera and 57 at Los Angeles). Team 192 had the best event, 67 points from Utah. 254 has the best first event, 61 points from San Diego. Code:
Team Events 1st 2 Rank Max MaxRank Avg AvgRank CAMA CASD ISTA ORPO TXHO CALB CASA UTWV MABO AZCH
973 2 100 1 57 6 50 10 43 0 0 0 0 57 0 0 0 0
192 2 96 2 67 1 48 13 0 0 0 0 29 0 0 67 0 0
399 2 93 3 48 16 46.5 15 0 45 0 0 0 0 48 0 0 0
1678 2 92 4 60 3 46 16 60 0 0 0 0 0 32 0 0 0
701 2 83 5 42 22 41.5 21 41 0 0 0 0 0 42 0 0 0
1458 2 78 6 41 24 39 23 37 0 0 0 0 0 41 0 0 0
599 2 67 7 44 19 33.5 30 0 23 0 0 0 44 0 0 0 0
3189 2 65 8 55 9 32.5 31 10 0 0 0 0 0 55 0 0 0
3495 2 61 9 39 27 30.5 36 22 0 0 0 0 0 39 0 0 0
254 1 61 9 61 2 61 1 0 61 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3501 1 60 11 60 3 60 2 60 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1717 1 59 12 59 5 59 3 0 0 0 0 0 59 0 0 0 0
2485 1 57 13 57 6 57 4 0 57 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2489 1 57 13 57 6 57 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 57 0 0 0
840 1 55 15 55 9 55 6 55 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1671 2 54 16 28 46 27 43 28 0 0 0 0 0 26 0 0 0
3970 1 54 16 54 11 54 7 54 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1836 2 53 18 32 35 26.5 47 0 0 21 0 0 32 0 0 0 0
2984 1 52 19 52 12 52 8 0 52 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
846 1 51 20 51 13 51 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 51 0
294 2 50 21 25 56 25 52 25 0 0 0 0 25 0 0 0 0
971 1 50 21 50 14 50 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 50 0 0 0
589 2 49 23 41 24 24.5 55 0 41 0 0 0 8 0 0 0 0
3512 1 49 23 49 15 49 12 0 0 0 0 0 49 0 0 0 0
1538 1 48 25 48 16 48 13 0 48 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
295 1 45 26 45 18 45 17 45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 2 44 27 34 33 22 58 0 10 0 0 0 0 34 0 0 0
1662 1 43 28 43 20 43 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 43 0 0 0
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2543 2 39 32 20 66 19.5 65 0 19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 20
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2102 2 38 34 26 51 19 66 0 12 0 0 0 0 26 0 0 0
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2839 2 35 39 29 43 17.5 71 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 29
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3256 2 29 48 17 74 14.5 78 17 0 0 0 0 0 12 0 0 0
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