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Re: Instant Replay Challenge—A Thought Exercise

Sounds like the setup that 2337, but also replicated on the other side (or each corner?) wouldn't be half bad. The quality and wide angle lense they use on their pole'd gopro is great for watching at home.
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Re: Instant Replay Challenge—A Thought Exercise

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Sounds like the setup that 2337, but also replicated on the other side (or each corner?) wouldn't be half bad. The quality and wide angle lense they use on their pole'd gopro is great for watching at home.
I wonder what the view with this looks like from the top of the high goals. (Or the top of the pyramids?) That could remove the difficulty of planning different placements for each venue. And while the pyramids aren't perennial, the height of the alliance walls never gets crazily low.
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Sounds like the setup that 2337, but also replicated on the other side (or each corner?) wouldn't be half bad. The quality and wide angle lense they use on their pole'd gopro is great for watching at home.
Thanks, also in the off season we looked at trying to put multiple cameras (GoPros) on the field. There was one camera at center field, one looking at the blue scoring zone and the third was looking at the red scoring zone. But the issue we ran into was the extra cost and finding an easy way to record all three camera feeds at the same time on one machine.

You can see some of the testing on our YouTube channel from IGVC, the lighting might be pretty bad because we play under a tent.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...-Hkajabm2iK6wK

The corner shots looking down were my favorites after the center field point of view.

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Re: Instant Replay Challenge—A Thought Exercise

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You can see some of the testing on our YouTube channel from IGVC, the lighting might be pretty bad because we play under a tent.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...-Hkajabm2iK6wK

The corner shots looking down were my favorites after the center field point of view.

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What if you were to have one in each corner looking down (so you theoretically have 2 angles on any possible penalty) And had 4 computers lined up to show the feed from each one. The potential is there...
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Re: Instant Replay Challenge—A Thought Exercise

I like a lot of the ideas coming out of this thread already. Here is my suggestion.

+ 1) Implement a system where all video streams from the event cameras (not the just the footage that is shown on the big screen, but all the footage that's being shot off the other cameras as well) is recorded and stored. These videos can be deleted prior to the start of the next match. This shouldn't take more than just some software with an external Hard Drive/USB Flash drive.

- 2) FIRST gives out Media badges at the Championship Event. lets make those badges useful. These six individuals' videos (six teams per match) will be the only outside video sources permitted when a challenge is presented by a given team (along with the footage captured by the event cameras). Thus, the Media badge is no longer just a field pass, The person with the badge has a responsibility for his team. Maybe even designating spots for these individuals off the field would also be a useful idea. Implementing this at the various regional and district events could be a challenge.

- 3) I really like Tristan Lall's idea on all three alliance members giving up their challenge cards if they wish to challenge a call on the field. I think this would make them much rarer during qualifications. However I do think there should be a dedicated replay official, similar to how College Football operates, who can determine if a questionable call should have been made or not.

- 4) Use the NFL's example. If you lose a challenge, you lose a timeout. lets apply this for eliminations. Maybe this should be the first thing implemented if FIRST did decide to create a Instant Replay system.

- 5) Feel free to adjust the number of cards a team is given to use during qualifications. I think two is a fair amount. If a team wins their first challenge, they get to keep their card, They lose their card for each subsequent challenge. (Thus, no team is given more than three total challenge opportunities during qualifications.

Even baseball finally adapted instant replay to a cretin degree, why can't FIRST?
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