Texas Rankings

[lynca]

Originally Posted by Greg Needel

Similar to what Joe Ross did for California (in this thread) I have applied the FiM ranking system to teams in texas through week 2.

Hah ! After seeing the California rankings, I started working on the same data,
Glad to see other people around Texas are thinking along similar lines.

Thanks for posting.

[Greg Needel]

Originally Posted by Coach Norm

Do you have a spreadsheet for the calculations or doing it by hand?

I asked him how he would handle teams that compete in more than two tournaments? He is keeping one with an average as well for each team.

Very interesting information to look at.

I also wonder if the District model will only include Texas.

See you in San Antonio at Alamo.

I have a spreadsheet for this, but it still requires a bunch of manual data entry work. I did this while I was sitting on an airplane so time wasn't the limiting factor, that being said I want to clean it up a bit before I would send it out.

I have no idea how the districts will be setup. I have heard rumblings with all sorts of possibilities including what states (or countries) get included and when the change will happen (next year or the following year or beyond).


I look forward to seeing you and your team at Alamo.

Originally Posted by lynca

Hah ! After seeing the California rankings, I started working on the same data,
Glad to see other people around Texas are thinking along similar lines.

Thanks for posting.

HA, had I known you were working on it I would have waited to do mine :-P. I think alot of people in the texas region are starting to think districts with all of the rumors floating around.

[JohnSchneider]

I imagine we'll probably get Oklahoma, and arkansas included. I doubt Mexico because of the logistical implications. Theyll probably get their own regional once texas and the south moves to district, since they wont be able to come into the district events.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Greg thanks for putting this data together.

Since we're talking about Texas Districts. First I know nothing official except I'm pretty sure we're not going to districts next season.

2nd everyone that's interested should look at what New England is putting together. http://www.nefirst.org/blog/. Their model solves a lot of the problems we would have in Texas with the FiM model. We still don't know if FIRST is going to approve their proposal. It eliminates the requirement for two events before the district championship which would be very difficult on some of our teams from the south and from the west.

Also attached is a graphic that someone (I don't know who) produced that has Texas as a region all by itself and it includes the eventual Super Regionals.

Before we go to a full District system I think we should work on getting a state championship after FRC Championships like Minnesota. http://www.mnfirstregional.org/offseason/mshsl I remember reading about this idea somewhere in the FIRSTinTexas strategic plan but I can't find it now.

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

Greg thanks for putting this data together.

Since we're talking about Texas Districts. First I know nothing official except I'm pretty sure we're not going to districts next season.

2nd everyone that's interested should look at what New England is putting together. http://www.nefirst.org/blog/. Their model solves a lot of the problems we would have in Texas with the FiM model. We still don't know if FIRST is going to approve their proposal. It eliminates the requirement for two events before the district championship which would be very difficult on some of our teams from the south and from the west.

Also attached is a graphic that someone (I don't know who) produced that has Texas as a region all by itself and it includes the eventual Super Regionals.

Before we go to a full District system I think we should work on getting a state championship after FRC Championships like Minnesota. http://www.mnfirstregional.org/offseason/mshsl I remember reading about this idea somewhere in the FIRSTinTexas strategic plan but I can't find it now.

I believe Minnesota's "State championship" is due to the fact that schools are required to have FRC teams in Minnesota now, and so it sort of acts as a UIL sport (without being one). We have the TRR which is pretty much the same thing though!

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn

I believe Minnesota's "State championship" is due to the fact that schools are required to have FRC teams in Minnesota now, and so it sort of acts as a UIL sport (without being one). We have the TRR which is pretty much the same thing though!

TRR is close but it's still just a sign up and go type event. It also doesn't have the title of being the "Texas State Championship" yet or being exclusive to Texas teams. My main idea with doing something like Minnesota is to get teams used to the point system and having to qualify for events.

[2789_B_Garcia]

As an aside, according to our scouting data of the top 25 teams on this list:

22 / 25 can shoot
20 / 25 can climb to Level 1
4 / 25 can climb above Level 1
8 / 25 will be at Alamo

If anyone's interested on the scouting data we collected from Lone Star & Lubbock, just let me know!

[itsjustmrb]

Any chance of a Texas Ranking update before Alamo?

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by itsjustmrb

Any chance of a Texas Ranking update before Alamo?

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

1. 148* 135
2. 118* 131
3. 3310* 115
4. 2936* 84
5. 3487* 80
6. 1477* 79
7. 1296* 77
8. 4063 63
9. 2587 61
10. 2789* 60

[2789_B_Garcia]

Sweet, THANKS!

[lynca]

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

Thanks for the calculations !
I would guess Cryptonite 624 should be up there in that list as well.

I snipped the few going to Alamo this week.

5. 624* 80
6. 1477* 79
9. 4063 63
10. 2587 61
11. 2789* 60

[I-DOG]

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

1. 148* 135
2. 118* 131
3. 3310* 115
4. 2936* 84
5. 3487* 80
6. 1477* 79
7. 1296* 77
8. 4063 63
9. 2587 61
10. 2789* 60

Not to be a stickler but 118, 1477, and 3847 went out of state for their second regional. Therefore it wouldn't count towards their points total according to FiM ranking system. But if you want to allow their second regional then 624 would have 80 points and be ranked 5th.

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by I-DOG

Not to be a stickler but 118, 1477, and 3847 went out of state for their second regional. Therefore it wouldn't count towards their points total according to FiM ranking system. But if you want to allow their second regional then 624 would have 80 points and be ranked 5th.

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that

Eek! I'm sorry! Totally did not mean to skip you guys. But you seem to have fixed the problem for me thanks!

[2789_B_Garcia]

Originally Posted by I-DOG

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that

Maybe we can be a more conspicuous second pick that way

Honestly, we are still wrapping our heads around the fact that we are anywhere near being discussed in these rankings! This year has really been a shock to us, in a good way, of course, and we are really hoping that we can bring a wild card into play this weekend

[itsjustmrb]

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia

Maybe we can be a more conspicuous second pick that way

Honestly, we are still wrapping our heads around the fact that we are anywhere near being discussed in these rankings! This year has really been a shock to us, in a good way, of course, and we are really hoping that we can bring a wild card into play this weekend

Sorry we were not in a position to help you with a second pick, but I think you would settle for getting to play the wild card ;-)

Thank you Team 2468 and Team 2789 for making the Alamo Regional one of the most exciting set of elimination rounds I have seen. Team 4063 would like to graciously thank you for allowing us to be part of your alliance.