Texas Rankings

[AllenGregoryIV]

Greg thanks for putting this data together.

Since we're talking about Texas Districts. First I know nothing official except I'm pretty sure we're not going to districts next season.

2nd everyone that's interested should look at what New England is putting together. http://www.nefirst.org/blog/. Their model solves a lot of the problems we would have in Texas with the FiM model. We still don't know if FIRST is going to approve their proposal. It eliminates the requirement for two events before the district championship which would be very difficult on some of our teams from the south and from the west.

Also attached is a graphic that someone (I don't know who) produced that has Texas as a region all by itself and it includes the eventual Super Regionals.

Before we go to a full District system I think we should work on getting a state championship after FRC Championships like Minnesota. http://www.mnfirstregional.org/offseason/mshsl I remember reading about this idea somewhere in the FIRSTinTexas strategic plan but I can't find it now.

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

Greg thanks for putting this data together.

Since we're talking about Texas Districts. First I know nothing official except I'm pretty sure we're not going to districts next season.

2nd everyone that's interested should look at what New England is putting together. http://www.nefirst.org/blog/. Their model solves a lot of the problems we would have in Texas with the FiM model. We still don't know if FIRST is going to approve their proposal. It eliminates the requirement for two events before the district championship which would be very difficult on some of our teams from the south and from the west.

Also attached is a graphic that someone (I don't know who) produced that has Texas as a region all by itself and it includes the eventual Super Regionals.

Before we go to a full District system I think we should work on getting a state championship after FRC Championships like Minnesota. http://www.mnfirstregional.org/offseason/mshsl I remember reading about this idea somewhere in the FIRSTinTexas strategic plan but I can't find it now.

I believe Minnesota's "State championship" is due to the fact that schools are required to have FRC teams in Minnesota now, and so it sort of acts as a UIL sport (without being one). We have the TRR which is pretty much the same thing though!

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn

I believe Minnesota's "State championship" is due to the fact that schools are required to have FRC teams in Minnesota now, and so it sort of acts as a UIL sport (without being one). We have the TRR which is pretty much the same thing though!

TRR is close but it's still just a sign up and go type event. It also doesn't have the title of being the "Texas State Championship" yet or being exclusive to Texas teams. My main idea with doing something like Minnesota is to get teams used to the point system and having to qualify for events.

[2789_B_Garcia]

As an aside, according to our scouting data of the top 25 teams on this list:

22 / 25 can shoot
20 / 25 can climb to Level 1
4 / 25 can climb above Level 1
8 / 25 will be at Alamo

If anyone's interested on the scouting data we collected from Lone Star & Lubbock, just let me know!

[itsjustmrb]

Any chance of a Texas Ranking update before Alamo?

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by itsjustmrb

Any chance of a Texas Ranking update before Alamo?

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

1. 148* 135
2. 118* 131
3. 3310* 115
4. 2936* 84
5. 3487* 80
6. 1477* 79
7. 1296* 77
8. 4063 63
9. 2587 61
10. 2789* 60

[2789_B_Garcia]

Sweet, THANKS!

[lynca]

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

Thanks for the calculations !
I would guess Cryptonite 624 should be up there in that list as well.

I snipped the few going to Alamo this week.

5. 624* 80
6. 1477* 79
9. 4063 63
10. 2587 61
11. 2789* 60

[I-DOG]

Originally Posted by animenerdjohn

I did a recalculated top 10 that may hol you over till the OP re-does the rankings

1. 148* 135
2. 118* 131
3. 3310* 115
4. 2936* 84
5. 3487* 80
6. 1477* 79
7. 1296* 77
8. 4063 63
9. 2587 61
10. 2789* 60

Not to be a stickler but 118, 1477, and 3847 went out of state for their second regional. Therefore it wouldn't count towards their points total according to FiM ranking system. But if you want to allow their second regional then 624 would have 80 points and be ranked 5th.

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that

[JohnSchneider]

Originally Posted by I-DOG

Not to be a stickler but 118, 1477, and 3847 went out of state for their second regional. Therefore it wouldn't count towards their points total according to FiM ranking system. But if you want to allow their second regional then 624 would have 80 points and be ranked 5th.

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that

Eek! I'm sorry! Totally did not mean to skip you guys. But you seem to have fixed the problem for me thanks!

[2789_B_Garcia]

Originally Posted by I-DOG

Although that would knock 2789 out of the top ten and I know we don't want that

Maybe we can be a more conspicuous second pick that way

Honestly, we are still wrapping our heads around the fact that we are anywhere near being discussed in these rankings! This year has really been a shock to us, in a good way, of course, and we are really hoping that we can bring a wild card into play this weekend

[itsjustmrb]

Originally Posted by 2789_B_Garcia

Maybe we can be a more conspicuous second pick that way

Honestly, we are still wrapping our heads around the fact that we are anywhere near being discussed in these rankings! This year has really been a shock to us, in a good way, of course, and we are really hoping that we can bring a wild card into play this weekend

Sorry we were not in a position to help you with a second pick, but I think you would settle for getting to play the wild card ;-)

Thank you Team 2468 and Team 2789 for making the Alamo Regional one of the most exciting set of elimination rounds I have seen. Team 4063 would like to graciously thank you for allowing us to be part of your alliance.

[I-DOG]

So earlier today I was working on which 64 teams in Texas would have qualified for the Texas State Championship this year. However, due to my computer committing suicide on me I lost the Excel spread sheet that took me 3 hours to make...

I'll try to recreate the spread sheet tonight and post the rankings tomorrow morning.

Here are somethings that I remember before my computer died:

There were 9 teams between ranks 60-68 with 12 points. This means that we would have had a few tie breakers come into play.

A few Texas teams, such as FRC 4000, do not exist anymore even though they were only in circulation for one year.

Teams that qualified through "District" Chairman's/Engineering Inspiration/Rookie All-star were:

1429
2468
2936
118
4502
4610

The top ten was:
1. 148
2. 118
3. 4063
4. 3310
5. 2587
6. 2468
7. 2936
8. 231
9. 704
T-10. 624
T-10. 3847

Hopefully these small nuggets of info will sate your curiosity for tonight.

[itsjustmrb]

Greg,

I know you are waaaaay busy, but any chance of a Texas ranking update?

TIA,

Mr. B

[I-DOG]

I'm not completely finished but since Mr. B asked for it. Only half of the tie breakers are done and before you ask I'm only doing tie breakers for the top 64 teams. After that it's just too much to ask of me

Rank	Teams	Points	Tie Breakers
1	148	135	
2	118	131	
3	4063	122	
4	3310	105	
5	2587	102	
6	2468	96	
7	2936	84	
8	231	82	
9	704	81	
10	3847	80	1. Elimination Round Performance Points
11	624	80	
12	1477	79	
13	1296	77	
14	57	75	
15	2848	62	
16	2789	60	
17	3802	54	
18	3997	53	
19	4587	45	
20	1429	44	
21	1801	43	3. Draft Points
22	4589	43	1. Elimination Round Performance Points
23	647	43	
24	4610	39	
25	3335	36	
26	3355	35	3. Draft Points
27	4694	35	
28	3103	34	
29	4852	31	3. Draft Points
30	4206	31	
31	4328	30	3. Draft Points
32	3481	30	
33	3545	29	1. Elimination Round Performance Points
34	4641	29	3. Draft Points
35	4300	29	
36	441	28	
37	4354	27	1. Elimination Round Performance Points
38	1817	27	3. Draft Points
39	3735	27	
40	3741	26	
41	4502	26	
42	2582	25	
43	457	25	
44	4282	25	
45	3676	25	
46	3834	25	
47	4359	24	
48	418	22	
49	1745	22	
50	4552	21	
51	4570	21	
52	3696	19	
53	2158	19	
54	3497	18	
55	4335	17	
56	653	16	
57	3366	15	
58	4378	15	
59	3999	13	
60	2585	12	
61	4689	12	
62	1642	12	
63	2805	12	
64	2966	12	
65	3005	12	
66	3679	12	
67	4192	12	
68	4259	12	
69	2833	11	
70	3417	11	
71	4045	11	
72	2881	10	
73	4351	10	
74	4734	10	
75	4853	10	
76	922	10	
77	2950	10	
78	2985	10	
79	4364	10	
80	4597	10	
81	3028	10	
82	3043	10	
83	1255	9	
84	4317	9	
85	2965	8	
86	3730	8	
87	4155	8	
88	4295	8	
89	4298	8	
90	4346	8	
91	4717	8	
92	2583	8	
93	2721	8	
94	3282	8	
95	3370	8	
96	3080	8	
97	3240	8	
98	3320	8	
99	3345	8	
100	3413	8	
101	3582	8	
102	3614	8	
103	4138	8	
104	1865	7	
105	2747	7	
106	2613	6	
107	2737	6	
108	2882	6	
109	2982	6	
110	3833	6	
111	4280	6	
112	4301	6	
113	4798	6	
114	4799	6	
115	1774	6	
116	3037	6	
117	4332	6	
118	4412	6	
119	4696	6	
120	3552	6	
121	3561	6	
122	4076	6	
123	4219	6	
124	3305	5	
125	3035	4	
126	3728	4	
127	4672	4	
128	499	4	
129	2969	4	
130	3350	4	
131	4670	4	
132	3029	4	
133	3353	4	
134	3743	4	
135	4639	2	
136	4271	2	
137	4747	2