7-Shot Autonomous Club

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by JesseK

987 does a 7-disc mid-field autonomous. This trumps them all.

I think you will see teams shoot their three discs and drive back to the center line just to push discs around or block 987. I know I would if I didn't have a ground pickup.

[themccannman]

So far from what I've seen 1986 and 987 have the best, most consistent autonomous routines. 254 mentioned that they had a plan to do a 9 shot autonomous, however I haven't seen that happen yet. We've been able to pick up and shoot 5 all but one time however our shooter issues at CVR didn't help with the scoring, if all goes well though we should be consistently getting either a 5 or 7 shot auto at the Sacramento regional.

[Travis Covington]

Originally Posted by themccannman

So far from what I've seen 1986 and 987 have the best, most consistent autonomous routines. 254 mentioned that they had a plan to do a 9 shot autonomous, however I haven't seen that happen yet. We've been able to pick up and shoot 5 all but one time however our shooter issues at CVR didn't help with the scoring, if all goes well though we should be consistently getting either a 5 or 7 shot auto at the Sacramento regional.

We did? Cool. I'd like to see that too.

[Gaurav27]

Originally Posted by Racer26

2056's 7 wasn't terribly reliable. At least not at GTR-E. Usually only good for 5 or 6 (their pickup is a single disc wide that masquerades as being able to deal with 2).

1241 has a fairly reliable 5 disk auto.

Originally Posted by akoscielski3

I agree that 2056's wasn't exactly perfect. They're main issue, like you said, was that they are only suppose to pick up one at a time. Though they did get it enough for me to consider it pretty good. I think they could add something on their robot though they would help in collecting all the discs, like a funnel, they purposely get the right or left discs first, then the second hits the angled funnel and funnels into their robot. I have also seen them collect discs on the way back to the pyramid to shoot.
I think that they would have been working on that during their break and come to Waterloo this weekend ready to always get 7.

1241 only got their auto working for Saturday, and maybe the later matches in Friday, but yes they did seem to get the 2 pretty constantly. If you didn't see their robot in auto, they shoot 3 discs from middle of pyramid (back) and then drive backwards to the middle of the field and grab 2 from the center-line, drive back and shoot 2 more.

I can't wait to see how competitive Waterloo is this weekend with all the great robots attending.

Yeah, thankfully we were able to get the 5 disc working on Saturday morning at GTR-E.

I agree, 2056 will probably have the 7 disc working this coming weekend at Waterloo.

I can't deny but say we're pushing for 7 as well.

Both 987 and 1986 are two of the most efficient robots I've seen that conduct a 7 disc autonomous. Great work by these teams!

[Cory]

Originally Posted by themccannman

So far from what I've seen 1986 and 987 have the best, most consistent autonomous routines. 254 mentioned that they had a plan to do a 9 shot autonomous, however I haven't seen that happen yet. We've been able to pick up and shoot 5 all but one time however our shooter issues at CVR didn't help with the scoring, if all goes well though we should be consistently getting either a 5 or 7 shot auto at the Sacramento regional.

Not us. 9 disc is impossible based on every robot we've seen so far.

[JoshPFalk]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

Can anyone who attended TCNJ confirm if 2590 pulled it off there? They came close at Hatboro-Horsham, but I don't know if they ever hit all 7.

We made 6 multiple times but were never able to make all 7 discs.

[Trent B]

Originally Posted by jspatz1

So disappointed they had to leave the finals, it was shaping up as a great autonomous battle. Those young mentors have put together a great team and a great robot from humble beginnings. Look out for Team Neutrino.

Thanks for the kind words. We were having a lot of bad luck with electronics at that regional, a bridge was giving us trouble before our last qualifier with you guys, and killing a victor during finals.

Hopefully we can get the 7-disc to work in almost all of our matches at North Star. Good luck at champs 1986!

[cadandcookies]

Originally Posted by Trent B

Hopefully we can get the 7-disc to work in almost all of our matches at North Star. Good luck at champs 1986!

Now I'm a bit scared...

I can't wait to see you guys at North Star!

[stuart2054]

Originally Posted by DjScribbles

At our two district events so far, I have yet to see another floor pickup being used in autonomous besides ours, so I'm curious how many other teams are picking up 7 in autonomous? Is anyone out there going for 9?



We currently pickup 7 (new feature in our second district event), but due to occasional loading issues (and a few missed shots and intermittent start-up transients) we usually make 5 or 6 (or during the SJ elims, 3 shots, thanks to a sensor issue).

Congratulations to our friends at team Excel. You guys are #1 in qualification points in Michigan through week 3! I am looking forward to seeing you guys at MSC in a few weeks.

We were the only one to use a floor pick up in Auto at Gull Lake. We did 5 disc there and of the matches I watched, we made all 5 at least 3 of the 12 seeding matches and 2 of elimination matches. Most of the matches we made 4 in auto. Sometimes we did not pick up both of the extra two and occasionally we missed one.

We are hoping to have a sucessful 7 disc auto for West Michigan and MSC.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by Cory

Not us. 9 disc is impossible based on every robot we've seen so far.

Curious why you say this?

Seems to me like 1986 or 2056 have both done 7, and they're certainly not moving as fast as they could be.

[Joe Ross]

Originally Posted by Racer26

Curious why you say this?

Seems to me like 1986 or 2056 have both done 7, and they're certainly not moving as fast as they could be.

I don't know about 2056, but it seems like 1986 would have to do two 180s, which makes it significantly harder.

[Racer26]

Both would have to 180 to pick them up and then 180 again to shoot them. Given 2056's historical adeptness with a gyro, I would say that doing two 180s and ending up facing the same direction would be trivial for them. Whether they could pick up frisbees, and get back to a position to shoot them would be a much bigger challenge.

[Lil' Lavery]

Originally Posted by Joe Ross

I don't know about 2056, but it seems like 1986 would have to do two 180s, which makes it significantly harder.

Only if they start in the center of the pyramid. Look at how 25/103 and 987 pick up discs in autonomous (including the center line) while starting from the rear corners. It's possible to complete it with two ~90deg turns. Certainly for 2056, at least. 1986 would have to be a little more creative, and probably drive in an arc and then spin 180.

And then there's teams like 2590 and 1241, who could theoretically accomplish the task without ever turning. But neither has hit 7 yet, and I have no idea if 1241 can run over the discs and then still pick them up like 2590 does.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery

And then there's teams like 2590 and 1241, who could theoretically accomplish the task without ever turning. But neither has hit 7 yet, and I have no idea if 1241 can run over the discs and then still pick them up like 2590 does.

1241's pickup only picks up from one side of their robot. They'd need to turn too... Although they rocket off the first 3 in about 2s in auto.

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by Cory

Not us. 9 disc is impossible based on every robot we've seen so far.

Oh my bad, I got this info from another team member who said that you guys had figured out a 9 shot autonomous but we're trying to perfect it.