pic: High Score in FRC Ultimate Ascent

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun

IMO, there should be two people manually verifying the scores for each alliance.

There are multiple field reset volunteers who manually count the frisbees. The same people who get them out of the goals also count them. It takes a small army to do field reset this year. Every match is manually counted.

[Kristian Calhoun]

Originally Posted by Gregor

There are multiple field reset volunteers who manually count the frisbees. The same people who get them out of the goals also count them. It takes a small army to do field reset this year. Every match is manually counted.

I'm not debating that point. I've been to events this year that only had one person counting the frisbees for each alliance for the entire weekend. In such cases, it would have been nice to have some redundancy/error checking in the final counts.

[mhos1997]

We just saw a score of 514 from all disc points in LA. Then we read about the glitches. =(

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun

I'm not debating that point. I've been to events this year that only had one person counting the frisbees for each alliance for the entire weekend. In such cases, it would have been nice to have some redundancy/error checking in the final counts.

That's not good. Do you know if it was a shortage of volunteers, or just disorganization?

[Karibou]

Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun

I'm not debating that point. I've been to events this year that only had one person counting the frisbees for each alliance for the entire weekend. In such cases, it would have been nice to have some redundancy/error checking in the final counts.

We had two volunteers on each end counting them at the Detroit District last weekend and it worked really well for us. We would tally them as they flew into the goals and take the sheets to the scoring table right after the game ended. If there were any discrepancies between the scorers, we would take the discs out of the goals and count them. It was only really an issue when discs were flying into the goals very quickly (thanks, 469...).

As far as I know, we didn't get any complaints about inaccuracies. I don't know how accurate it was when compared to the results from the sensors, but it seemed like you could tell the outcome of a match as it ended unless the point totals were within 5 or 10 points.

For the record, we had 8 or 9 field reset volunteers, and it worked out well for us. Field reset was definitely more work this time than it has been for the past few years.

[GaryVoshol]

A person at the score table at Grand Blanc today reports that while discs counted by humans* disagree with the sensor score, in most matches it is only one disc per goal that must be adjusted up or down.

* I believe, but do not know for sure, that they are counting the discs as the goals are emptied. They do a visual count at the end of autonomous.

[NXTGeek]

FYI, the --real-- high score as of week 4 is Waterloo's 277-81, scored in Q28 by 1114/2056/1846 beating 1241/2200/4039.

[Racer26]

Originally Posted by NXTGeek

FYI, the --real-- high score as of week 4 is Waterloo's 277-81, scored in Q28 by 1114/2056/1846 beating 1241/2200/4039.

That match had 89 foul points in the 277.

The 1114/2056/4069 alliance put up 274 in the semifinals with no fouls.

[JB987]

Originally Posted by Racer26

That match had 89 foul points in the 277.

The 1114/2056/4069 alliance put up 274 in the semifinals with no fouls.

Actually, the highest score according to FIRST data is 243 in second quarter final match...still impressive

[Racer26]

You seem to be right, but I'm sure I remember 274 going up. Perhaps a miscounted RTS score. Weird.

[Ivan Malik]

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol

A person at the score table at Grand Blanc today reports that while discs counted by humans* disagree with the sensor score, in most matches it is only one disc per goal that must be adjusted up or down.

* I believe, but do not know for sure, that they are counting the discs as the goals are emptied. They do a visual count at the end of autonomous.

As one of the counters at Grand Blanc I can confirm this. We not only had people counting the discs as they entered the goals, but also exiting in case of bounce outs, that way we were 100% sure. Elims saw all discs counted out at the end of a match by hand twice by two different people, Quals only if a visual count was hard to do at the end (stacked discs and what not.) Auton discs were counted both during and after auton visually. We tried to think of every angle. With 3 people counting per side, sometimes 4, if the real time was off then we knew the real score.

[AluminumNarwhal]

During Inland Empire's Practice Match 25, somehow the real-time scoring reported the final score as 42-2817. Interestingly, 2803 of those points were listed as foul points.

[xSAWxBLADEx]

Originally Posted by AluminumNarwhal

During Inland Empire's Practice Match 25, somehow the real-time scoring reported the final score as 42-2817. Interestingly, 2803 of those points were listed as foul points.

[dellagd]

Originally Posted by xSAWxBLADEx

...The picture in the post above...

Go home live scoring system,
You're drunk

But really, the foul points? I...what? Unless some ref didn't realize that his phone was set to vibrate right on top of the foul button, how is an automated system supposed to ever add foul points?

[markmcgary]

Originally Posted by dellagd

Go home live scoring system,
You're drunk

But really, the foul points? I...what? Unless some ref didn't realize that his phone was set to vibrate right on top of the foul button, how is an automated system supposed to ever add foul points?

Our bot went rogue and was getting friendly with the blue pyramid. [j/k]