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Re: Showing the Chairman's video during the presentation
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Hopefully next year we'll plan in advance and we can do something like this. Kudos to your student director/producer! |
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Re: Showing the Chairman's video during the presentation
Our team showed our video during the presentation in Duluth (Northern Lights). While the judges did not stop the students, the feedback sheet said we should NOT (underlined) be showing the video during the presentation. We were confused because the rules specifically state it is permissible.
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Re: Showing the Chairman's video during the presentation
Is there any place where we have a sort of an archive of Chairman's videos? Preferably the winning once?
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Just because you are allowed to present video as part of a presentation, doesn't always mean it is a good idea... it takes a lot of work and planning to have video enhance a short presentation, and a poor integration of video will almost certainly detract from the presentation. Jason |
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Re: Showing the Chairman's video during the presentation
We decided this year to try something different and show our video to the judges in the presentation, following an enthusiastic 2-minute intro. Our feedback from was very positive, it seems the judges enjoyed the combination and thought we were on the right track (they also had good suggestions for more things we can do). Compared to previous years we've applied, we were very happy with how the video felt this year, so it's something that teams should decide each year how they think they can put their best foot forward.
For anyone wondering, we rolled in a cart with a laptop, speakers, and LCD running off a robot battery. That way it was self contained and the students just had to hit Play once they finished their first 2 minute intro. |
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Since the manual can't really be more clear that using the chairman's award video is permissible, apparently some of the judges weren't paying attention to the portion that concerns the awards they were judging. That's very problematic. As for a resolution, it's complicated. It's likely possible from a logistical point of view to have them reprise their presentation at GTR West. But teams choose where they make their submissions strategically, and knowing that 610 (a past regional chairman's award winner) was not coming to that event may have encouraged others to submit there instead. Similarly, 610 surely employed strategic thinking when submitting at Waterloo instead of GSR (and possibly even considered this a factor in their selection of regionals). A possible solution would be for FIRST to allow 610 to submit at GTR West, then open a second non-award-winning spot to qualify for the Championship chairman's award if 610 finishes first or second. That isn't quite fair to all the other teams who qualified elsewhere—but I think a case could be made that the harm was minimal, since all will be freshly re-evaluated at the Championship. Letting them directly qualify for the Championship chairman's award isn't a terrible idea if the problem is confined to 610 (since they're already going)—at worst, the judges have to consider one terrible presentation that would have been weeded out by the regional process. But if other teams are similarly affected, it might not be feasible to work them all into the judging schedule. As before, since the qualifying teams are all being freshly evaluated, most of the harm is mitigated. Another possible resolution would be for FIRST to do nothing for 610—because no resolution is satisfactory—but own the error and establish procedures to avoid it and/or establish an equitable response for the future. No matter the outcome, it's FIRST's responsibility to make a statement explaining their decision, and to do so before GTR West (if the resolution would be implemented there), or otherwise, to do so before the Championship. It is insufficient for that statement to be made only in private to the affected teams. The Q&A is a suitably public forum, so hopefully FIRST makes a satisfactory response there. |
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I'll try to get a copy of ours and post it somewhere as well. |
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Re: Showing the Chairman's video during the presentation
Thanks everyone for all your feedback.
It is very much appreciated! The manual does appear to be clear in the first part of section 6.4.3.4. However, at the bottom of this section, Note 2 includes the following excerpt: "...the Chairman’s judges will not be judging your video as part of your submission..." Thanks all again for the input and references to the manual, you've answered all my questions! Since my questions have been answered, I'd like to respectfully ask that this thread be closed. |
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