Greater Toronto Regional West 2013

[JB987]

Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto

These matches are awesome, I love watching Canada play.

I was watching 1114's matches, and I noticed in match 30 it looks like their 30 point climb should have been ruled as invalid. As they lift their arm up to grab the first corner bracket, they appear to be off alignment slightly, and the claw hits the side of the upright pole, which is technically in level 2. This puts them in contact with level 0, 1, and 2 simultaneously. Does anyone else see the same thing or am I crazy? Here's the match:
http://www.watchfirstnow.com/archive3.php?id=62954250

I don't know what the final scoring was, so the ref's could have ruled the climb invalid. Can't tell from the scoring.

Also, 1114 is consistently hitting 20 second cycle times. It's a beautiful thing to see.

-Mike

I believe you are correct about this particular climb. The margin of error on the claw grab is relatively small (as it is for many other corner climbers by the way) and it is likely that many other climbs with similar corner climbers could be occasionally making contact with the second level corner upright. It is also highly unlikely it will ever be called as it is hard for a ref to see slight contact between claw and bar from the distance away they are standing and during what is sometimes a fast action process. Regardless, this performance and many others rightfully continue to impress

[Karthik]

Originally Posted by JB987

I believe you are correct about this particular climb. The margin of error on the claw grab is relatively small (as it is for many other corner climbers by the way) and it is likely that many other climbs with similar corner climbers could be occasionally making contact with the second level corner upright. It is also highly unlikely it will ever be called as it is hard for a ref to see slight contact between claw and bar from the distance away they are standing and during what is sometimes a fast action process. Regardless, this performance and many others rightfully continue to impress

In rare situations we can contact level 2 while still in contact with the ground. In these cases we always legally restart our climb by ceasing to touch level 2, while remaining in contact with level 0. The following Q&A details the process for legally restarting a climb.

https://frc-qa.usfirst.org/Question/...uching-level-1

When we actually leave the ground the geometry of our arm makes it impossible to be touching the vertical pole in level 2; our claw is only hooked to the knuckle of the pyramid.