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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

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Which defender is attempting this block? I assume the center guy is busy doing a 7 shot autonomous, and not available for the block. That means one of the wing guys needs to attempt it after getting their 3 shots off. Sounds like a nearly equal race to me. I bet 987 wins that race against most bots.

Of course if the center guy is not doing the 7 then even if they block the center line they are still down quite a bit after auto.
If you watch 987's midfield pick up though you notice that drive relatively slowly while picking up the firsbees and have to make several turns and get back into position. Aside from just getting there and blocking the pick up, the only thing the defensive bot has to do is bump 987 just hard enough that they don't perfectly line up when they get back to the pyramid and they won't make the shots. After watching their video their routine is incredibly fast thought so I doubt many teams will be able to stop them, possibly only a couple during eliminations.
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Most teams should have it on anyway. The only reason to not go back after your shots is if your with a someone that can center line. Going back helps get you ready for telop anyway in most cases. It makes sense to add it for all matches not just ones against a center line auto. Our default auto does this, currently from the back of the pyramid, we don't play in places with too many good floor loaders yet.
In a vacuum, sure. In a 3v3 match, it's not always best to be the first robot off of the pyramid. It really depends on how your alliance wants/needs to break the starting formation. There are plenty of scenarios where you don't want a robot to be the closest to the opponent at the start of tele-op. For reasons I can't quite figure out, the transition between autonomous and tele-op is one of the most overlooked portions of a match by many teams.

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Aside from just getting there and blocking the pick up, the only thing the defensive bot has to do is bump 987 just hard enough that they don't perfectly line up when they get back to the pyramid and they won't make the shots.
That might be true if it weren't for the fact that 987 has a vision-guided turret that locks onto the goals during autonomous.
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That might be true if it weren't for the fact that 987 has a vision-guided turret that locks onto the goals during autonomous.
Nevermind, I guess 987 is pretty much unstoppable
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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

Add 469, 2337 and 3539 to the list.
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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

Add 2415 as well.
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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

Add 624 and 1477 too.
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Add 624 and 1477 too.
1477 also had a midline auto.
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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

I'll add 1311 to the list of hopefuls for the 7 frisbee. Got the pick up system working halfway through Smoky Mountains, just didn't have enough time while there to get the tweaks done in programming.

We watched it run on the practice field with the arm to pick the frisbees up about a half inch too high. Software team promised to have that fixed by St Louis, so watch for it there.
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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

2415 implimented the 7 disk auto in the eliminations at DC.....and it worked Will need to fine tune it a bit more but we are working hard to improve it.
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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

Updated for all the new additions, let me know if I've missed any. The list is getting quite large, it's awesome to see this many teams accomplishing something awesome like this. Go programmers!

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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

1540 was close to a 7-disk. They hit 6 multiple times in OK City.

It looks like 624, 1477, and 3928 from this list will not be attending champs.

7-disk auto not a guaranteed win, but it has a high correlation. Still expecting it to be a highly valued commodity at champs.
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Put 2175 down for hopefuls we managed to get our 5 working at north star but didnt have time to work out all the kinks for our 7 disk routine. By St. Louis it should (hopefully) be ready.
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Re: 7-Shot Autonomous Club

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1540 was close to a 7-disk. They hit 6 multiple times in OK City.

It looks like 624, 1477, and 3928 from this list will not be attending champs.

7-disk auto not a guaranteed win, but it has a high correlation. Still expecting it to be a highly valued commodity at champs.
Our seven disk auton would have led us to a win if we would have had pneumatics the last match. Unfortunately we used our timeout before the first finals match to allow the other alliance to re-image a crio and our finals luck continued from KC into North Star when we lost pneumatics at the end of the second finals match and didn't have any pneumatics at all in the third finals match.
We found the 7 disk auton to be a highly valuable asset that led us to be selected by the second seeded team in KC and to be seeded first at North Star. I personally expect some of the top seeded teams/alliances at champs to have a seven+ disk auton & can shoot 3's extremely well.
Good luck to all the other teams out there going to champs!
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We feel like our software is working pretty well at this point for getting from 6 to 7. Our big challenge is discs bouncing out of the goal. We suspect that is because we are shooting in such a fast burst and with such high velocity that the chain in the goal doesn't have time to stabilize before the next disc slams into it. Anyone else had that problem?
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We feel like our software is working pretty well at this point for getting from 6 to 7. Our big challenge is discs bouncing out of the goal. We suspect that is because we are shooting in such a fast burst and with such high velocity that the chain in the goal doesn't have time to stabilize before the next disc slams into it. Anyone else had that problem?
624 had this issue in their last Semi Final at Alamo. We lost that match by 4 points. Not just our rate of fire of one robot, but the combined rate of the alliance at which the disk hit the chain, and some being deflected out instead of dropping in. I did see one case on the opposite where a disk would have come out, but a follow-on disk pushed it back in.
As stated earlier (by 1986) the 7 point auto may not guarantee a winner, it does make a huge difference in the outcome. Do the math....2 hi goal disk in auto = a full run in tele.....we all have known that since January 5th though.
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