Our answer to the long range shooter

[bs7280]

At the Wisconsin regional we were faced against a team that could put up over 100 long range points a match by them selves. We made this shield, and after lots of discusson with the judges and eventually the head judges at FIRST, we got it approved.

In the match we beat them by one point.

Feel free to do the same against any other "Bullet Proof" robots.

https://photos-6.dropbox.com/t/0/AAD...ize=1 024x768

If I can find it, ill post the video of the round

[ErvinI]

Could you upload the picture to an image host? Dropbox requires you to sign in to see the actual picture.

[Jaxom]

Originally Posted by ErvinI

Could you upload the picture to an image host? Dropbox requires you to sign in to see the actual picture.

He or she needs to tell Dropbox to generate a public link, and send us that. I share pics this way all the time...

[Donut]

Another view of it that I put up last week:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/38869

Thanks to everyone on 3734 for doing this. This was by far our favorite memory from this year's regional.

[brrian27]

Very nice! Team 4184 put up something similar when we faced team 180 SPAM with them and we handed SPAM their only loss of the weekend along with the help of our other parter, team 179 Children of the Swamp. These simple additions can seriously cut into shooting by some elite teams!

[bs7280]

Sorry about that! I didn't realize dropbox would be such a pain.

http://i.imgur.com/lGqgXSU.jpg

Team photo of us and 167 (thanks for the idea and the help! it was a lot of fun)
http://i.imgur.com/MGm4wyi.jpg

Any team can add something like this too their robot, and is able to take it on and off without inspection (after it is inspected the first time). Works great.

[Kevin Leonard]

There were a number of teams that tried to do something similar to 195 at the Connecticut regional- the most infamous and hilarious of which was the "noodlebot" which consisted of a giant mess of noodles strapped on to team 1991 (the Dragons) robot to attempt to block their FCS-ing.
They ultimately failed.
The only somewhat successful shutdown was by a few teams during quals whose partners couldn't pick up their missed shots like a certain first seed during eliminations could .

[Irwin772]

This was the same thing that happened to my team at Greater Toronto West. After winning at Waterloo with 1114 and 2056 teams started to realize how effective a full court shooter could be with someone that can pick up. All of the teams that weren't the strongest shooters began to strap on whatever they could to slow us down. In elims the number two seed even picked what was dubbed by karthik to be the peacock bot to slow us down with our ground pickup partner. Unfortunately for us it worked on us quite well.

[spikeman62]

Team 558 did something very similar to our robot to stop the full court shooting onslaught that was the Cyber Knights, Team 195 at CT. I believe Team 195 posted their match videos on a different thread if you would like to see. Look at the video of match 36 and the first quarterfinal match if you want to see our blocker in action.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hreadid=115636

[akoscielski3]

Originally Posted by Irwin772

This was the same thing that happened to my team at Greater Toronto West. After winning at Waterloo with 1114 and 2056 teams started to realize how effective a full court shooter could be with someone that can pick up. All of the teams that weren't the strongest shooters began to strap on whatever they could to slow us down. In elims the number two seed even picked what was dubbed by karthik to be the peacock bot to slow us down with our ground pickup partner. Unfortunately for us it worked on us quite well.

It's Funny because 4716 (peacock bot) is one of 772's rookie teams, and you were on 772 before. So you pretty much made your-self lose in elims You're welcome bro

And BTW when the heck did you get a CD account???!!!

[Damiaen_Florian]

No one strategy is ultimately perfect. Full court shooters for example, they can be blocked, now there are many ways to counter act this as well, the full court shooter can simply cause penalties upon penalties to the other team (My team was able to do this to a team in our semi-final and ultimately had them cause 46 points in penalties) or they can have a short blocker in front of them to clear a lane for the shots, or many others which shall not be said.

I may be a bit bias because my team's robot IS a full court shooter, but it seems as though their is a negative tendency towards full court shooters and that they are a "useless strategy" but I feel that people are too quick to not explore other options in terms of strategy that could benefit them in the long run.

[2789_B_Garcia]

We are a defense-oriented team, and here's the basic evolution of our blocking mechanism from the student team-lead that oversaw the project:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2ge...FxMHc4RHM/edit

We used 1.0 against 2468 to advance to Finals at Hub City, and we were gearing up to having to use 4.0 against them at Alamo, but we were never scheduled against them in quals, and they wound up picking us for elims. To show their sense of humor, they told us that they had nicknamed all blocking mechanisms "Unappreciators" since their nickname is Team Appreciate...so naturally, we got a silver sharpie and wrote "The Unappreciator" on our blocking mechanism and then let them rename it "The Appreciator" with a black sharpie:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/frc2789...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/frc2789...in/photostream

We actually mounted it for semi-match 1, but the spring wasn't strong enough to support the weight of the pool noodle covered in gaffer's tape as we drove around, so we took it down.

[Woolly]

Originally Posted by Damiaen_Florian

No one strategy is ultimately perfect. Full court shooters for example, they can be blocked, now there are many ways to counter act this as well, the full court shooter can simply cause penalties upon penalties to the other team (My team was able to do this to a team in our semi-final and ultimately had them cause 46 points in penalties) or they can have a short blocker in front of them to clear a lane for the shots, or many others which shall not be said.

I may be a bit bias because my team's robot IS a full court shooter, but it seems as though their is a negative tendency towards full court shooters and that they are a "useless strategy" but I feel that people are too quick to not explore other options in terms of strategy that could benefit them in the long run.

Those people who have negative tendency towards full court shooters need to be more like 1986, 1114, and 2056 and be ready to accept their full court shooting brethren, thus being ready to put them in a situation that can suit the full court shooting robot's unique talents.

Then again, I may also be biased.

[2789_B_Garcia]

Originally Posted by Damiaen_Florian

Full court shooters... can have a short blocker in front of them to clear a lane for the shots...

2468 has a very reliable full-court shooter...in fact, they were the only full-court shooter at Alamo. We knew that if we (a small defensive robot with a good drivetrain) went into elims with them and a small & quick pyramid shooter (our good friends at 4063), we had a good chance at winning...and it was exactly through the strategy mentioned above (and a few others) that we were able win.

It was this same combo with 118 and 148 that won at Lone Star this year.

[Irwin772]

It's Funny because 4716 (peacock bot) is one of 772's rookie teams, and you were on 772 before. So you pretty much made your-self lose in elims You're welcome bro

And BTW when the heck did you get a CD account???!!!

As it says at the top I've had one since march 2012 I just don't use it very often. Also I'm fairly certain that if we weren't on that alliance the number 2 alliance would not have picked a defensive bot so your welcome with helping your rookie make it to worlds