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Re: Our answer to the long range shooter

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Full court shooters... can have a short blocker in front of them to clear a lane for the shots...
2468 has a very reliable full-court shooter...in fact, they were the only full-court shooter at Alamo. We knew that if we (a small defensive robot with a good drivetrain) went into elims with them and a small & quick pyramid shooter (our good friends at 4063), we had a good chance at winning...and it was exactly through the strategy mentioned above (and a few others) that we were able win.

It was this same combo with 118 and 148 that won at Lone Star this year.
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Re: Our answer to the long range shooter

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It's Funny because 4716 (peacock bot) is one of 772's rookie teams, and you were on 772 before. So you pretty much made your-self lose in elims You're welcome bro

And BTW when the heck did you get a CD account???!!!
As it says at the top I've had one since march 2012 I just don't use it very often. Also I'm fairly certain that if we weren't on that alliance the number 2 alliance would not have picked a defensive bot so your welcome with helping your rookie make it to worlds
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Re: Our answer to the long range shooter

My team has been a fairly successful long-range shooter at our regionals. Our theory is that, even if we do get blocked, that occupies 1/3 of the other alliance. If we picked our elimination alliance well, they should be able to pull us through if need be, even if we can only make our autonomous, a few discs, and our 10 point climb.

Also, we did face teams that slapped tall blockers onto their robots...and some were actuated. A word of warning: it's a technical foul (20 points) for leaving your autozone when you are taller than 60". We had a match with tons of foul points because the robot defending us would periodically (presumably accidentally) leave the autozone.
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Also, we did face teams that slapped tall blockers onto their robots...and some were actuated. A word of warning: it's a technical foul (20 points) for leaving your autozone when you are taller than 60". We had a match with tons of foul points because the robot defending us would periodically (presumably accidentally) leave the autozone.
It's only a Technical ⁿif continuous or repeated violations" according to G22. Otherwise, just a normal 3 point foul.
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Re: Our answer to the long range shooter

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It's only a Technical ⁿif continuous or repeated violations" according to G22. Otherwise, just a normal 3 point foul.
this was what we argued after our quarter-final matches at the Central Washington regional when we were trying to defend against 1425. in the first quarter final match we only left the auto zone at the end of the match to try to prevent 1425 from hanging and our drivers forgot to pull down our blocker all the way. we argued this should only be the 3 point foul because it was only this one instance, not repeated violations.
In the second quarter-final match we did cross the auto line extended again at the end of the match but we quickly retracted our blocker, but in this match we were still called for multiple 20 point fouls.

video of these matches:
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I am curious, how have other regionals have been calling these fouls?
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2468 has a very reliable full-court shooter...in fact, they were the only full-court shooter at Alamo. We know that if we (a small defensive robot with a good drivetrain) went into elims with them and a small & quick pyramid shooter (our good friends at 4063), we had a good chance at winning...and it was exactly through the strategy mentioned above (and a few others) that we were able win.

It was this same combo with 118 and 148 that won at Lone Star this year.
2468 has been the most devastating full court shooter I've seen this year. It is amazing that they can shoot from literately everywhere. Also, great job 2789. You guys gave 2468 the space they needed. Perfect Alliance!
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2468 has been the most devastating full court shooter I've seen this year. It is amazing that they can shoot from literately everywhere. Also, great job 2789. You guys gave 2468 the space they needed. Perfect Alliance!
Thanks!
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Re: Our answer to the long range shooter

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2468 has been the most devastating full court shooter I've seen this year. It is amazing that they can shoot from literately everywhere. Also, great job 2789. You guys gave 2468 the space they needed. Perfect Alliance!
Thanks, we appreciate the recognition. I think mobility is the root of our success as a full-court shooter. From the beginning of the season, people have been saying that full-courters are easily defendable with a tall blocking mechanism ("unappreciators"). We try to work around the tall defensive bots by being fluid and mobile on the other side of the field. We have the ability to feed from both sides, shoot from both sides, and switch between left and right quickly if we are affronted by a tall bot. (As opposed to most full-court shooters that I have seen who will switch to being cycle-runners to the pyramid when defended). And, yes, having 2789 keep away strong defenders such as 457 and 3545 was an immense help to us.
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Re: Our answer to the long range shooter

Yeah, we were pretty proud of our long range shooter and its performance in Match 51 at the Wisconsin Regional. We've honored it in this (rather grainy) video made by one of the team members - from the perspective of the FCS team, of course.
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We appreciated all the teams on our alliances who forfeited their own potential disc points to be defender defender bots in order to give our bot the opportunity to do its thing, as well as the alliance partners who passed their frisbees to our human loader as our bucket ran dry. In a rather strange way, we're pleased to have provided that competitive edge that caused other teams to have to scramble (and even post pics of their alliance partners and pit neighbors assisting with jerry rigging!) to figure out how to shut us down. All in all, an amazing three days in Milwaukee!
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Re: Our answer to the long range shooter

The face is a nice touch, I bet it would frustrate an opposing team even more if they're getting blocked by a big face.
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The face is a nice touch, I bet it would frustrate an opposing team even more if they're getting blocked by a big face.
It was especially hilarious when their bot left to climb, we bashed into their drivers station at full speed with the face looking directly at them
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2468 has a very reliable full-court shooter...in fact, they were the only full-court shooter at Alamo. We knew that if we (a small defensive robot with a good drivetrain) went into elims with them and a small & quick pyramid shooter (our good friends at 4063), we had a good chance at winning...and it was exactly through the strategy mentioned above (and a few others) that we were able win.
BTW, very cool to see you and 4063 (our alliance partners in Hub City) win with 2468 (a Hub City foe). Glad y'all could finish what we couldn't in Hub city.

See you in St. Louis.
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BTW, very cool to see you and 4063 (our alliance partners in Hub City) win with 2468 (a Hub City foe). Glad y'all could finish what we couldn't in Hub city.

See you in St. Louis.
THANKS! Don't know if you saw the webstream, but our teams were Tweeting with the hashtag: #hubcityredemption lol
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THANKS! Don't know if you saw the webstream, but our teams were Tweeting with the hashtag: #hubcityredemption lol
I missed the webstream. That's awesome!
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I missed the webstream. That's awesome!
http://www.justin.tv/roll24productions/b/384327507

Skip to 6:19:00 ... It's our second semi-final match...it's one of the best barn burners I've seen out of any regional this year.

...of course if you want to see our blocker flop around, you can check out our first semi-final match...we lost that one making the second semi-final match a must-win. I think the problem could have been fixed if we had put more gaffer's tape on the spring. Contrary to popular belief, duct tape doesn't fix every problem, gaffer's tape does.
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