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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

Well, we could always build a new arena in Lambertville...

I think the reason for choosing Lehigh for this years MAR championship is because the arrangements were more favorable than what Temple was offering.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

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It is also important to note that one of the goals of MAR is to help grow FRC participation in the supported region. I don't think anyone would disagree that the MAR Champs this year is in a lower team population area. By holding the event in such an area there is a greater chance of new teams being formed there than say in Philly, where there are already many teams with much smaller room to grow new teams.
While the Philly burbs are pretty well tapped out, there's still a fair bit of potential for growth in the city itself. Especially if you include restarted disbanded teams.
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While the Philly burbs are pretty well tapped out, there's still a fair bit of potential for growth in the city itself. Especially if you include restarted disbanded teams.
I can't agree more. Out of the 45 high schools in the Philadelphia School District, only 4 have FRC teams. Partly this is because of budget limitations, but most of these schools probably have never heard of FIRST.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

222 is happy we only have to travel 1.5 hours to Lehigh!

I know there are many teams upset by the fact they will have to spend money for lodging, but think about the teams like 222, 1143 & 4285 from NEPA that have to pay for lodging at every competition we go to.

MAR is good in that we get to play more for the same price, but we don't get to see the cost savings other teams in the district get to see.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

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Well, we could always build a new arena in Lambertville...

I think the reason for choosing Lehigh for this years MAR championship is because the arrangements were more favorable than what Temple was offering.
good luck finding any room to put it
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222 is happy we only have to travel 1.5 hours to Lehigh!

I know there are many teams upset by the fact they will have to spend money for lodging, but think about the teams like 222, 1143 & 4285 from NEPA that have to pay for lodging at every competition we go to.

MAR is good in that we get to play more for the same price, but we don't get to see the cost savings other teams in the district get to see.

I like Lehigh, and I think it is pretty fair due to what Cliff stated. I think it will prove to be a great event.

Full disclosure: I never liked attending an event at Temple.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

I just updated the standings for after BR alliance selections, let me know if you spot any errors.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...G1vR 0E#gid=0
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

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I just updated the standings for after BR alliance selections, let me know if you spot any errors.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...G1vR 0E#gid=0
Updated with elimination results, just waiting for award points and the DCA winner. Here are the teams who have clinched a spot at MAR CMP. The rankings aren't official and will change slightly with award points, I haven't looked at tiebreakers either.

1 341
2 2590
3 225
4 316
5 1676
6 11
7 3974
8 103
9 293
10 2729
11 56
12 3314
13 365
14 222
15 2607
16 303
17 1640
18 193
19 4575
20 816
21 272
22 2016
23 1218
24 1089
25 1403
26 486
27 2539
28 4285
29 75
30 25
31 869
32 714
33 1367
34 219
35 1228
36 1391
37 224
38 433
39 1881
40 1495
41 1143
42 1626
43 1370
44 4361
45 2559
46 1279

On the bubble (4 slots available):
3340 - 50 pts (@BR)
4342 - 48 pts
136 - 47 pts
3123 - 47 pts
357 - 47 pts
223 - 47 pts (@BR)
555 -42 pts (@BR)
4475 - 42 pts (@BR)

If the CA winner at BR is outside the top 50, there are only 3 slots available. Keep in mind that more than a few teams declined last year, so teams in the 51-60 range have a good shot to squeak in via declines.

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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

Thanks Scott,

However, I know of 2 teams that have qualified that won't be at the MAR Championship as they are attending a different regional on the same weekend.

I also looked at the floor plan for the MAR Championship that has a pit layout for 50 teams. So I would think any team 50 or better is in, at this point.

So that makes bubble teams 52+. The question remains how many declines there are of those that have already qualified. If I remember correctly, last year MAR needed to reach down to the 60th seed to get 50 teams. What it will be this year is anyone's guess.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

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On the bubble (4 slots available):
3340 - 50 pts (@BR)
4342 - 48 pts
136 - 47 pts
3132 - 47 pts
357 - 47 pts
223 - 47 pts (@BR)
555 -42 pts (@BR)
4475 - 42 pts (@BR)

If the CA winner at BR is outside the top 50, there are only 3 slots available. Keep in mind that more than a few teams declined last year, so teams in the 51-60 range have a good shot to squeak in via declines.
They're from Australia... Good team though!
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

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Thanks Scott,

However, I know of 2 teams that have qualified that won't be at the MAR Championship as they are attending a different regional on the same weekend.

I also looked at the floor plan for the MAR Championship that has a pit layout for 50 teams. So I would think any team 50 or better is in, at this point.

So that makes bubble teams 52+. The question remains how many declines there are of those that have already qualified. If I remember correctly, last year MAR needed to reach down to the 60th seed to get 50 teams. What it will be this year is anyone's guess.
The "bubble" is for the #1-50 in the standings, as the award points get added we'll see the final 50 (before declines).

We'll have to see how many declines we get before we have the final list for Lehigh.

As far as I know, 365 and 87 are the only teams at Baltimore next weekend, and 87 is already eliminated from MAR CMP.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

Standings should be complete now. Here are the top 50, I only did the tiebreak for the final slot. Also put the teams up for CA, EI, and RAS at Lehigh. There are 2 slots for CA and EI this year, still one slot for RAS.

1 341
2 2590
3 1676
4 225
5 316
6 11
7 3974
8 103
9 293
10 2729
11 56
12 3314
13 365
14 2607
15 222
16 303
17 1640
18 193
19 4575
20 816
21 2016
22 272
23 1218
24 1089
25 1403
26 486
27 714
28 2539
29 4285
30 75
31 25
32 869
33 1367
34 1391
35 1228
36 219
37 224
38 433
39 1881
40 1495
41 1143
42 1626
43 1370
44 4361
45 2559
46 1279
47 3340
48 4475
49 4342
50 3123 - tiebreak (most elim points)

Chairman's Award Competitors:
11
75 (also up for EI)
433
1218
2590
2729

Engineering Inspiration Competitors:
75 (also up for CA)
321 (won twice)
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1676
3142

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It's interesting to note that team 2495 won Lenape but is not in the top 50. Five teams need to decline for them to get their invitation to Lehigh.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

I was told that 2016 will not attend Lehigh, they are saving their money for St Louis.

That's at least 1 more slot...
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I was told that 2016 will not attend Lehigh, they are saving their money for St Louis.

That's at least 1 more slot...
Also, I was also told that 341 and 365 will decline their spots. Can anyone confirm this?
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