District Champion Playoff for Fun

[dodar]

Originally Posted by themccannman

This is a really good idea, I', interested in how you would balance the regions though as California, Michigan, and Canada would probably come out with far more powerful alliances than other regions mostly due to the population of teams, California probably has twice as many teams as most other states.

Cali - 216 and .00123 teams per square mile
Mich - 211 and .00215 teams per square mile
Canada - 126 and .00013 teams per square mile

[Steven Sigley]

Well seeing as it would come down to the winners of the state or region championship it would be pretty fair I think despite different densities of teams.
2 powerhouses and a really solid 3rd robot.

The more district models that come up, the more interesting this becomes...

I'd like to see CA, NE, Canada, and the Northwest

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by dodar

Cali - 216 and .00123 teams per square mile
Mich - 211 and .00215 teams per square mile
Canada - 126 and .00013 teams per square mile

I'm not quite seeing the point your trying to make, unless you're just listing stats for the 3 regions I mentioned. Do you have the stats for other regions too? I'd be interested in seeing team populations for other areas.

[JackS]

NE has 155 teams and 0.00215 teams per square mile.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by themccannman

I'm not quite seeing the point your trying to make, unless you're just listing stats for the 3 regions I mentioned. Do you have the stats for other regions too? I'd be interested in seeing team populations for other areas.

Just listed the stats. Kind of replying to the end of your comment about Cali having 2x the teams. Threw in the teams per square mile to just show why Cali hasnt gone district just yet compared to why Michigan had.

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by dodar

Just listed the stats. Kind of replying to the end of your comment about Cali having 2x the teams. Threw in the teams per square mile to just show why Cali hasnt gone district just yet compared to why Michigan had.

I included Michigan in the list because I knew it had almost as many teams as California, I would still be willing to bet though that Cali has 2x as many teams as most other states. I don't have the stats on this so I was curious if you did.

[dodar]

Originally Posted by themccannman

I included Michigan in the list because I knew it had almost as many teams as California, I would still be willing to bet though that Cali has 2x as many teams as most other states. I don't have the stats on this so I was curious if you did.

I got mine off of the FIRST website. I know that Florida has 76 so...lol Cali is quite a bit more expansive in teams than us. Florida probably wont get a district model till FIRST regulates every state into its own district lol

[Andrew Schreiber]

Originally Posted by dodar

I got mine off of the FIRST website. I know that Florida has 76 so...lol Cali is quite a bit more expansive in teams than us. Florida probably wont get a district model till FIRST regulates every state into its own district lol

What's worse, if you look at distributions of teams in Florida they are really segmented. Or at least that's how it appeared to me. (It's also been about a year since I checked into it)

In Michigan we have a heavy concentration in SE Michigan and a heavy smattering on the west coast of the state. But overall they are heavily concentrated in those two areas with SE being far more heavily populated (I grew up with no less than 3 FRC teams within 20 minutes of my house, 27, 33, and 68. And I lived on the outskirts of the suburbs, north 5 miles was farmland and almost 0 cell signal). This lent itself to districts quite easily as it meant most teams don't have travel costs other than gas for the family van.

Cali is in a different boat as far as distribution. It's worth looking into if you are hoping for districts in your area. Distributions and densities do matter otherwise you won't be saving a whole lot on travel costs (and in some cases, you spend more). Districts are NOT a magic bullet to solve all the FIRST problems. They work in certain areas due to peculiarities in their geography, population density, team density, and sponsor density.

[Austin2046]

Is California going to districts next year? Any other regions?

I've been told from multiple sources the Northwest is going to districts next year. I'm very excited about it, our region has grown a lot in the past few years and I'm hoping it'll help push us further and be more competitive. If anyone has more information about it they'd like to share, I'd be interested to know.

[dcarr]

Originally Posted by Austin2046

Is California going to districts next year?

The (tentative?) plan is 2015

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by dodar

Cali - 216 and .00123 teams per square mile
Mich - 211 and .00215 teams per square mile
Canada - 126 and .00013 teams per square mile

Canada as a whole? Most teams are from Ontario or Quebec, with a little pocket in Alberta.

[engunneer]

Originally Posted by Gregor

Canada as a whole? Most teams are from Ontario or Quebec, with a little pocket in Alberta.

Also should count the populated part of Canada. They stretch quite a bit to the north with a very small population living that far up.

Curious what the northernmost FRC team is. Alaska or Canada?

[dodar]

Originally Posted by engunneer

Also should count the populated part of Canada. They stretch quite a bit to the north with a very small population living that far up.

Curious what the northernmost FRC team is. Alaska or Canada?

Last I knew there was a team in Anchorage. Ad I know my number for Canada is really off but I dont know Canada geographically enough to separate the teams by region. More likely than not, the Western and Central teams in Canada would get broken into the Northwest and Minnesota districts when they happen.

[ErvinI]

Originally Posted by dodar

Last I knew there was a team in Anchorage. Ad I know my number for Canada is really off but I dont know Canada geographically enough to separate the teams by region. More likely than not, the Western and Central teams in Canada would get broken into the Northwest and Minnesota districts when they happen.

I don't think it is quite feasible for a Calgary team to be competing in a district with teams from Minnesota or, for example, Seattle. Taking a car from Calgary to Minneapolis takes 18 hours while a car to Seattle takes 11 hours according to Google Maps. The fact that they will need to cross the border will also make it very unappealing to many teams. It really defeats the purpose of the District system.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by engunneer

Also should count the populated part of Canada. They stretch quite a bit to the north with a very small population living that far up.

Curious what the northernmost FRC team is. Alaska or Canada?

Northernmost team that I know of in Canada is team 4625, the 1 student team, from Fort Mcmurray Alberta. Fort Mcmurray is south of Anchorage.