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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

As has 1881, anyone have any info on the last one? 1647 perhaps?
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

I really hope 4361 is able to attend. I'd love to speak with them again at the Regional CMP.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

It also seams that team 11 is already registered for Worlds but are attending MAR champs anyway: Team List

Correct me if im wrong?
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

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It also seams that team 11 is already registered for Worlds but are attending MAR champs anyway: Team List

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That is correct. Same with 103.

11 qualified for Worlds by winning the Palmetto Regional Week 1, and 103 qualifies for Worlds automatically every year by winning the Championship Chairman's Award in 2003, and thus entering the FRC Hall of Fame.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

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That is correct. Same with 103.

11 qualified for Worlds by winning the Palmetto Regional Week 1, and 103 qualifies for Worlds automatically every year by winning the Championship Chairman's Award in 2003, and thus entering the FRC Hall of Fame.
Indeed. The other 4 prequalified teams declined (25, 341, 365, 2016).

The only practical consequence would be if 11 or 103 ended up winning the entire event. In that case, they would consume one of MAR's 3 CMP auto-bids for the event winner. In MAR, these 3 slots cannot pass down the list if a team has already qualified, so we would have 13 qualifiers at most. The same would apply if 11 won one of the two CA slots for championships.

Interestingly, in FiM, the 3 winner spots can pass down to the next "points-based" team in the queue. This is something that I would like to see MAR implement for next year, I though that was a FIRST restriction, but if Michigan can do it, I imagine we could as well.

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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

In 2012, if I remember right, points earned at the region championship were multiplied (tripled?) and added to points earned at districts? Will this stand for 2013?
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In 2012, if I remember right, points earned at the region championship were multiplied (tripled?) and added to points earned at districts? Will this stand for 2013?
This was correct last year, however it is not in the MAR supplemental rules this year.


Also, with 49 teams registered at this moment, is it logical to assume that we will be stuck at 49 teams?

By my math it seems that we will have 98 qualification matches....I don't see so much need in having to have qualification matches tomorrow night...(assuming math for matches is (#of teams*number of matches per team(12))/6))
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

the dropbox link in a previous post now has the latest update.

49 teams have registered
7 MAR teams have registered for the FIRST Championships
3 of those teams will also be at the MAR Championships
FIRST Team 1923, Ranked 61 is the lowest ranked team to accept so far

Points earned at the championships are counted 3x in final rankings and tie-breaks

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<snip> ...
Interestingly, in FiM, the 3 winner spots can pass down to the next "points-based" team in the queue. ... <snip>
Last year, MAR had this statement in the supplemental rules:
"The 7 award spots may not be filled by any team(s) other than the 7 award winners even if one of the 7 award winning teams chooses to decline their spot. The only exception is when a member of the winning alliance has already been awarded a slot by winning the MAR Region Championship Chairman’s, Engineering Inspiration, or Rookie All Star award. In this case, a team will be added from the top ranked teams."

Different than FiM. Don't know if it was changed for this year. Will have to find out.
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

Just an FYI As of 4:00 PM team 484 was registered for Lehigh
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Just an FYI As of 4:00 PM team 484 was registered for Lehigh
Then I'm guessing FIRST's event page just didn't update. That means that qualifications went down to the 65th ranked team.
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Then I'm guessing FIRST's event page just didn't update. That means that qualifications went down to the 65th ranked team.
More than Likely, this all went down really late in the day.
if the teams above couldn't make a commitment then so it is.


the MAR 2013 supplemental rules state that

"if any of the eligible teams are unable to attend, choose not to attend, or do not respond by Tuesday at
noon, the next team in ranked or
der will be eligible to take their place. Eligibility will continue to move
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teams to notify us quickly if they do not plan to attend."

As it stands the teams above had more than 24hr past the deadline to make their decision and that is against what the MAR rules state We had less than 24 hrs before the championship starts to scramble to notify team members, arrange transportation, load vehicles and everything else that goes along with getting ready.
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I also heard that, but I cannot confirm it.
I also heard similar stories about 103 and 25.
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I also heard that, but I cannot confirm it.
I also heard similar stories about 103 and 25.
I can confirm it for sure, the delay made it very hard on us Mentors who have to juggle work & Play, some aren't going and others are trying to re-arrange schedules, as it is we had a Mentor who was ready to go but after 12:00 PM today with still no answer from FIRST had to commit to his work and therefore he will be lucky to be there at all on Thursday or Friday, Oh did I mention this is his 5th year as a Mentor !!!
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Re: 2013 MAR Standings

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In 2012, if I remember right, points earned at the region championship were multiplied (tripled?) and added to points earned at districts? Will this stand for 2013?
Basically the equation used last year is as follows: (I was there during the final points tally)

Total Points = MAR_CMP_Points*3 + SumD1_D2 Points**

The idea here is that the Championship points are worth 60% of your final score and points awarded prior to the Championship are worth 40% of your final score.

**SumD1_D2 is the total points earned after a teams first two district events, a team competing at a third event does not earn points at this event.

Also, in the event that Team 11 were to win the MAR CMP or it's Chairman's award (or EI) then they would, in theory, cause a spot to 'disappear' from the system in the same way that 341 did last year.... Team 11 has a special incentive to compete at the MAR CMP since it's a continuation of their Chairman's award process... (103 would also remove a spot should they win MAR CMP as well)
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