[FRCTop25.com] Final Rankings Show!

[Dave McLaughlin]

Or the Northwest.

[AlecMataloni]

Good thing people did their research before voting.

[CalTran]

Originally Posted by AlecMataloni

Good thing people did their research before voting.

Yeah I know, that 16th ranked was totally carried Looks like a semi-decent list. I'm surprised that 1114 surpassed 2056 for a general climb/dump over floor loading.

[Yipyapper]

Originally Posted by CalTran

Yeah I know, that 16th ranked was totally carried Looks like a semi-decent list. I'm surprised that 1114 surpassed 2056 for a general climb/dump over floor loading.

Alright: 1114 has a 3 disc auton, 2056 has 7. 18-42. 1114 has 50 point climb, 2056 has 10. 68-52. 2056 picks up, but 1114 has cycles just as fast as 2056 can shoot; their feeding is razor sharp.

1114 > 2056, in my honest opinion.

[EricDrost]

Originally Posted by Yipyapper

Alright: 1114 has a 3 disc auton, 2056 has 7. 18-42. 1114 has 50 point climb, 2056 has 10. 68-52. 2056 picks up, but 1114 has cycles just as fast as 2056 can shoot; their feeding is razor sharp.

1114 > 2056, in my honest opinion.

Remember, while 1114 can dump the four colored discs, that's only 8 EXTRA points because using that load in the 3pt goal would result in 12 points.

56-52 or 68-64 depending on how you look at it. 1114 comes out on top, but not by a 16 point margin.

[Justin Montois]

Originally Posted by Dave McLaughlin

Or the Northwest.

Criminal.

[Dave McLaughlin]

Originally Posted by Justin Montois

Criminal.

It is what it is, some peoples perception of the best 25 robots in FIRST. Not making it is not a disappointment, it just shows that we are not that well known across the country, or that people view the northwest teams as weaker and our wins less meaningful. Letting this upset our team would be pointless, we are proud of what we have accomplished, and not being recognized by some people should not diminish that.

[Basel A]

Originally Posted by Dave McLaughlin

It is what it is, some peoples perception of the best 25 robots in FIRST. Not making it is not a disappointment, it just shows that we are not that well known across the country, or that people view the northwest teams as weaker and our wins less meaningful. Letting this upset our team would be pointless, we are proud of what we have accomplished, and not being recognized by some people should not diminish that.

Also likely that relatively few people from the Northwest (or Southeast) voted. Anyone from the Northwest would put 1983 on their list, possibly along with other deserving teams like 2471.

[Patrick Flynn]

I would have to agree that there are some really good teams that get left out every week. What really surprises me is that week after week most people do not vote for more that 15 teams. This week 20 of 82 voters had all 25 filled out with only 8 going more than 15. With so many good teams having competed this season I was expecting way more people filling all 25. Anyone didn't fill out more that 15 care to explain why?

[Abhishek R]

I admit I only voted for 17 teams. I was only familiar with about 17 really good robots to put on the list. I would rather vote for 15 teams I know and believe did well instead of 25 teams with 10 or so teams just randomly written down to fill in blanks.

[joelg236]

Originally Posted by Patrick Flynn

Anyone didn't fill out more that 15 care to explain why?

Not enough time/energy to dig deep into memory. If I had a lot of time and data I would, but build season never ends.

[dtengineering]

Originally Posted by Dave McLaughlin

Or the Northwest.

Well, I've seen the Skunks (1983) arguably the top team in the Northwest in person, and I've seen 1334, currently ranked 25th, in person.

I greatly admire Skunkworks and many teams in Washington and Oregon, but to be perfectly honest unless Skunkworks got a 50 point climb and dump working for Spokane, 1334 will beat them every time.

Sincere apologies to my friends in the Northwest, but I've played in Oregon, I've played in Washington and I've played in Ontario.

Ontario really is that good. One day I'll have to check out Michigan... I hear they know how to make robots there, too.

On the other hand, keep in mind that the list of zoo animals didn't have Pandas on it. I mean really... if the zoo animals didn't have Pandas on it, how can you take the other list too seriously?

Jason

P.S. What? No animals from North America? I've seen a Grizzly Bear and a Grizzly will kick a tiger's butt any day! And don't even get me started talking about Polar Bears!

[Akash Rastogi]

Relax all, it is just peer voting.

[Anupam Goli]

Not many teams can go 3/3 in a season: 33, 118, 469, 1114, 1983, 1986, and 2056 are the only ones to go 3/3 with regional victories. 1983 is the only one that has done it in 3 back to back competitions. Think about that for a moment: with an immediate turn around between events and very little time to iterate and perfect their designs, they still win every week. That's just amazing. They might not be as well known as the Canadian duo or the famous Texas and California teams, but they deserve to be recognized among the top. I'm gonna hop onto the 1983 fan train and hope they go far at Championships.

[PayneTrain]

There are over 2500 FRC teams.
There are over 6 dozen events this year.

There were only 80 ballots.

There is plenty of time for me to
a) respect a team like 1983 that won 4 banners in 3 straight events
b) watch Mike & Justin's show and have some fun for a few hours
c) pass my Computer science class

But, as I imagine is the case for a lot of people, it's hard to take the right amount of time to do the due diligence necessary to fill out a bracket that one is comfortable calling an honest assessment of the top 1% of teams in competition, so polls go entirely unfilled.

It's a peer poll. It's all for fun. Like there is an East Coast bias in sports, the poll reflects an obvious Northeast, California, and Michigan bias because there are high concentrations of teams there and a high likelihood voters hail from those locations. Results like 1986 and 111 are results of being very visible presence on Chief Delphi, which honestly can't be said for a lot of teams in the Southeast or Northwest.

If you built a robot and a team that won 4 banners in 3 events, I'm not sure what other validation you need other than that of multiple panels of judges, the results on the field, and most importantly, the impact your team is making at home.