2013 Championship Prop Bets

[efoote868]

For the past few years before the Super Bowl, my brother and I identify about 15-21 even money prop bets. We then take turns picking the outcome of each bet (while the other takes the opposite bet), and the winner is the one with the most correct outcomes.

Just for fun (or year long bragging rights), I'm going to post a bunch of true / false statements. Feel free to answer each one, we'll see who does the best. I'll "lock" the betting on Wednesday after load in, before match schedules are released.

If you have a suggestion for a bet, also post it. Please try to keep the outcome about even odds, and verifiable through posted numbers after the event.

1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance.
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches.
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500.
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more.
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more.
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more.
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more.
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less.
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more.
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more.
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less.
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less.
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton.
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie.
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes.
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo.
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations.
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein.

Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win.
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win.

[Cody Burd]

The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance. False
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches. Waiting until divisions
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500. waiting
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more. Waiting
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more. Waiting
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. False
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more. Waiting
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more. Waiting
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less. Waiting
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more. Waiting
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more. Waiting
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less. Waiting
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less. Waiting
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton. Waiting
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie. Waiting
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes. Waiting
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo. Waiting
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations. True
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein. False

[themccannman]

1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance.
True
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
False
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
False
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
False
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less.
True
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less.
Waiting for divisions to be announced
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton.
True
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie.
True
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes.
True
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo.
True
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations.
False
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein.
True
Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win.
2599
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win.
Waiting for divisions to be announced

This is going to be interesting

Edited since I realized we get to see divisions first.

[Taylor]

1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance. FALSE
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches. FALSE
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500. FALSE
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more. TRUE
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more. FALSE
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. TRUE
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. TRUE
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. TRUE
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more. FALSE
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more. TRUE
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less. FALSE
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more. TRUE
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more. TRUE
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less. FALSE
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less. TRUE
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton. TRUE
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie. FALSE
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes. FALSE
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo. FALSE
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations. FALSE
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein. TRUE

Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 2,337
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 1,529

[efoote868]

I'm not sure why waiting for divisions will help that much. I find it unlikely that FIRST will sort teams by OPR

1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance. False
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches. False
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500. True
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more. True
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more. False
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. False
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more. True
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more. False
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less. False
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more. True
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more. False
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less. True
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less. True
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton. False
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie. True
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes. False
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo. True
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations. False
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein. True

Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 2400
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 2124

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by efoote868

I'm not sure why waiting for divisions will help that much. I find it unlikely that FIRST will sort teams by OPR

Were just waiting to see if 1114, 148, 2056, 1717, 987, 254, 1986, 118, 973, and 971 all end up in the same division

[Zuelu562]

My Answers in bold.

1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance. True
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches. False
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500. False
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more. True
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more. True
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. False
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more. True
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more. False
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less. True
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more. True
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more. False
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less. True
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less. True
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton. True
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie. False
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes. False
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo. True
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations. True
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein. True

Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 2000
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 5040

[Jay O'Donnell]

1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance. Yes
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches. No
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500. Wait until divisions
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more. Wait until divisions
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more. Wait until divisions
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. No
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. No
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. No
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more. Yes
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more. Yes
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less. No
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more. Wait until Divisions
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more. Wait until divisions
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less. Wait until divisions
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less. Wait until Divisions
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton.No
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie. Yes
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes. Yes
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo. No
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations. No
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein. No

Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 1876
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 1058

[Cody Burd]

The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance. False
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches. False
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500. True
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more. True
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more. True
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more. True
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more. False
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less. False
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more. True
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more. False
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less. True
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less. False
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton.False
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie. True
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes. False
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo. True
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations. True
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein. False

[Alex Cormier]

1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance. NO
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches. NO
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500. NO
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more. NO
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more. NO
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. YES
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. YES
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. NO
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more. Yes
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more. YES
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less. NO
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more. NO
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more. NO
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less. NO
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less. NO
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton.NO
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie. YES
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes. NO
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo. NO
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations. NO
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein. YES

Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 2321
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 1126

[efoote868]

I'd like to encourage everyone to guess the tiebreakers, as I'm curious to what people think and I'd don't want to break a tie based on no response.

[Jay O'Donnell]

Originally Posted by efoote868

I'd like to encourage everyone to guess the tiebreakers, as I'm curious to what people think and I'd don't want to break a tie based on no response.

I've seen three people (myself included) who have just used their team number for the second tiebraker

[efoote868]

Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058

I've seen three people (myself included) who have just used their team number for the second tiebraker

Means you don't have very high hopes for your team winning Einstein .

Highly doubt we'll have to use the second tiebreaker though.

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by themccannman

old bets

Now that divisions are out, here's my revised bets.
1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance.
True
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches.
False
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500.
False
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more.
True
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more.
True
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
False
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
False
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.
False
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more.
True
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more.
True
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less.
False
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more.
True
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more.
True
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less.
True
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less.
True
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton.
True
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie.
True
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes.
True
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo.
True
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations.
False
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein.
True
Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win.
2499
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win.
2001

[Aidan S.]

1. The winning alliance of Einstein will be the Blue Alliance. False
2. The winning alliance on Newton will have to play three or more finals matches. False
3. The sum of the team numbers on the runner up alliance of Curie will be less than 2500. True
4. The average elimination match score of Galileo will be 140.0 or more. False
5. The average losing elimination match score of Archimedes will be 130.0 or more. True
6. There will be a score of 300 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event.False
7. There will be a losing score of 180 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
8. There will be a combined unpenalized score of 400 or more during some qualification match at the Championship Event. True
9. There will be an elimination alliance formed where the sum of the team numbers will be 7500 or more. True
10. The highest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 32 or more. True
11. The lowest average OPR of any Championship Event division will be 25 or less. False
12. After Qualifications, Newton will have a team with an OPR of 91.0 or more. False
13. After Qualifications, Curie will have a team with a CCWM of 85.0 or more. True
14. After Qualifications, Archimedes will not have a team with an OPR of -5.0 or less. False
15. After Qualifications, Galileo will not have a team with a CCWM of -30 or less. True
16. The red alliance will win the first qualification match on Newton. True
17. The blue alliance will win the first qualification match on Curie. True
18. The red alliance will win the last qualification match on Archimedes. False
19. The blue alliance will win the last qualification match on Galileo. False
20. There will be an 8 seed upsetting a 1 seed during eliminations. True
21. A non #1 seed (from their division) will win Einstein. True

Tiebreaker #1: Guess the sum of the points scored on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 2230
Tiebreaker #2: Guess the sum of the team numbers of the winning alliance on Einstein. Closest (higher or lower than actual) will win. 2566