Alliance Scores Histogram

[Ether]

Weeks 1 thru 7: ... 77 Events, 2509 Teams, 12806 Alliance Scores for 6403 Qual Matches.

[ablatner]

Could you post the data as an ogive?

[Ether]

Originally Posted by ablatner

Could you post the data as an ogive?

Yes.

[ablatner]

Thanks!

[Dreams2Reality]

Can you post a chart for MSC only as a comparison?

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Dreams2Reality

Can you post a chart for MSC only as a comparison?

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[Racer26]

Yeeeeah. MSC was a whole different game. The competition level was unmatched, the only regionals that even got close were Waterloo and GTRWest, and they don't even hold a candle to it.

Way to go Michigan!

[Nemo]

D is for Data, that's good enough for me...

[munch munch munch munch]

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Racer26

Yeeeeah. MSC was a whole different game. The competition level was unmatched, the only regionals that even got close were Waterloo and GTRWest, and they don't even hold a candle to it.

Way to go Michigan!

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[Racer26]

That last graph is a bit deceiving since you took the 'all events' line off.

Visually, GTRWest+Waterloo look like they match the 'all events' line, relative to MSC, but in actuality, they're quite a bit stronger if you look at the numbers.

[Racer26]

The graphs are interesting though.

Unsurprising that GTRW/Waterloo are very similar (both late season, both in the same geographical region, and both with MANY of the same teams).

Whats interesting to me is the slope differential. MAR seems to have a taller slope (which I believe equates to a narrower band of 'average' scores, meaning tighter competition), but the top end lines up with GTRWest and Waterloo fairly well, while MSC is stronger.

I think that would suggest that GTRW/Waterloo/MAR all have fairly similar max-score (which I would say is primarily a function of the 'best 2' robots), while MSC is higher throughout the curve. It also suggests to me that MAR's midrange teams are on average stronger, which makes sense, since its an invitation only event.

[M.O'Reilly]

Pretty cool/relieving to see the data support that MARC was a tough event. Not as tough as MSC, but also there are about half the teams in the region, so the competition won't be quite as high at MARC. Until this point, MARC was receiving a lot of criticism for well known teams declining to attend. I also couldn't help but notice that the game strategy in the region was a little different than every where else due to the defensive, rough-and-tumble nature of many teams in the area. Motors ran hot at the conclusion of each match.

[M.O'Reilly]

Originally Posted by Racer26

The graphs are interesting though.

I think that would suggest that GTRW/Waterloo/MAR all have fairly similar max-score (which I would say is primarily a function of the 'best 2' robots), while MSC is higher throughout the curve. It also suggests to me that MAR's midrange teams are on average stronger, which makes sense, since its an invitation only event.

I think the data actually suggests that max match scores at the Canada events were higher than MAR (b/c of aforementioned teams), but there was a faster drop-off in competition after the top teams. Whereas MAR had lower maximums and consistently higher average scores as you said. The lack of many floor pick-up bots, and fast 30 point climbers kept max scores in check. Matches were shoot 'til you die, and if you can't cycle 4 times, you can't keep up, so play defense. In nearly every elim. match, at least one side went through all white and colored discs at the loader station.

[Ether]

A histogram may answer some of the questions.

[DonRotolo]

Well, that 171 score in MAR is ours...and we lost that match

Thank you Ether for posting all this data.