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Re: World Rankings

I posted the alliance selection order that I used in the alliance selection thread.
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Re: World Rankings

Wow rank 61. That's a couple hundred ranks better than we thought it was going to be.
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Re: World Rankings

Woot!

Looking through the spreadsheet, are you taking the highest scores in qualifying only? Because we did have higher scores after alliance selection.

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Re: World Rankings

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i guess this is an artifact of using the FiM system.
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Q18: “Why are there no ranking points associated with the Chairman’s Award, Engineering Inspiration Award, and Rookie All Star Award?”
A18: This decision for this was made by FIRST NH, not FiM. FIRST considers these 3 awards to be “Culture Changing Awards” and wishes them to remain apart from the rest of the competition awards.
FiM disagrees with this position, and we feel that the decision not to award points for these items actually degrades the prestige of these awards relative to the others by making them worth nothing in our system.
Taken from Jim Zondag's FAQ's:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2804?
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Re: World Rankings

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Woot!

Looking through the spreadsheet, are you taking the highest scores in qualifying only? Because we did have higher scores after alliance selection.

-Mentor, 4265, speaking on behalf of the team
Not to speak for Joe, but the FiM scoring includes the highest scores only from the qualifiers because they are used in case of ties. Similarly, additional QS, AS CP, and TP are accumulated only from the qualifiers.
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It'll be interesting to see once divisions are released how many of the Top 400 in this ranking method are actually attending the Championship.
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Re: World Rankings

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It'll be interesting to see once divisions are released how many of the Top 400 in this ranking method are actually attending the Championship.
You can see the almost-completed 2013 Championship Team List (without divisions) here: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso?page=teamlist&event_type=FRC&sort_team s=number&year=2013&event=cmp. There are 386 teams signed up so far.
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Re: World Rankings

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FIRST has the data, but doesn't publish it. Ed Law does a good job guessing the ambiguous cases using OPR in his scouting spreadsheet, but that's not that great when you get to the 6th, 7th, and 8th seeds with the serpentine. As others said, I used the alliance selection thread, and supplemented with other sources when needed.
I need to make a correction here. As Joe pointed out in my post http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...82&postcount=3 from last year, I do not use the alliance selection results from CD. To me even one error is too many. However it is not true that I guess the alliance selection based on OPR. I cannot image anybody would do that. The spreadsheet make the determination automatically when it is clear. For example if team A as alliance captain 2 pick team B who is alliance captain 8, then we know for sure that team B is #2 pick and the team they pick later in 2nd round is #15 pick. If team A as alliance captain 2 pick team C in first round and team D in second round and team C is not an alliance captain, there is no way to tell which team in an alliance was picked first or second, the program will list the higher ranked one as # 2 or 15 pick, and the lower ranked team as # 15 or 2 pick.

Jim Zondag has been asking FIRST to provide this information for the last few years. It looks like FIRST is finally listening.

Joe, thank you for doing this. Now any region who wants to do what if a certain group of teams is in a district and see the ranking, they can easily do it with your spreadsheet by selecting those teams only.
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Re: World Rankings

Team 145 was the 4th overall selection at FLR. Selected by team 48, the 4th seeded Alliance captain. 1126 was the 13th pick, the third pick of the 4th seeded Alliance.
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It'll be interesting to see once divisions are released how many of the Top 400 in this ranking method are actually attending the Championship.
As of a half hour ago, the number is 223 out of 400.

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I was shocked to see a NW team at number 2 but very happy as well. Go 955.

Also good to see we're 39th.
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wow awesome we managed to sneak into the top 100 and thats without our planned 7 disk for champs
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Re: World Rankings

I corrected a few errors (There were 2 judges awards at Isreal, and messed up the North Star elimination finish). I also added a column for the award points.
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i am not finding 67
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i am not finding 67
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