Archimedes 2013!!!

[jessss]

Originally Posted by CLandrum3081

Hm, only one MN team on Archi out of 15 going to Champs. Good luck 2705!

Thank you! 2705 can't wait to play against teams we normally don't play with so we're excited!

[Billfred]

Got the email today, I'll be volunteering on Archimedes (where it all started for me ten seasons ago). Can't wait for next week!

[Fisher2486]

[quote=jblay;1263540]First time in Archimedes, so excited.

Does anyone know who the regular MC and Game Announcer team are on Archimedes?

Here is a Google Doc for Pit Scouting every team in the division.
It's a collaboration effort so please put in any information you have, but only if you know it's correct.
Hopefully this will make pit scouting 102 teams a little easier.
If you have any suggested changes please email or PM me.

Amazing and this will honestly help alot of teams with not only pit scouting but with the Scouting Excel sheets all the head scouters are compiling this weekend.

[FIMAlumni]

469 just put out what i think is a 50 point climb and dump teaser... of king kong

[twetherbee]

I am really looking forward to the Championship and the Archimedes Division this year.

There are so many great teams (more and more as I am doing my homework) in a very deep field, including an astounding seven former World Champs: 51, 71, 254, 365, 469, 973, and 987, two of the fastest climbers, several multi-disc autonomous machines, high scoring FCS's, and many of the best cycler teams in FIRST. It's going to be awesome and I can't wait to get to St. Louis.

I always enjoy the Championships to reconnect with old friends and make new ones. Archimedes has a number of familiar teams we are looking forward to seeing again including:

Former 987 CMP Alliance Partners:
Team 51 - Curie Division Champs, 2011
Team 71 - Galileo, 2009
Team 365 - Archimedes Division Finalists, 2008

Former 987 CMP Opponents:
Team 11 - Archimedes 2008
Team 33 - Newton 2007
Team 71 - Einstein 2007, Archimedes 2008, Curie 2011
Team 78 - Curie 2012
Team 254 - Curie 2012
Team 365 - Curie 2011
Team 525 - Curie 2012 (Thanks again for helping fix our intake after the Quarter Finals, true class)
Team 1902 - Einstein 2007, Galileo 2009
Team 2081 - Archimedes 2008

Former Regional Alliance Partners:
Team 254 - Winner San Diego Regional 2013, Winner San Diego Regional 2011
Team 846 - Semi Finalist, San Jose 2007
Team 973 - Finalists, Las Vegas Regional 2010
Team 3245 - Winner, Las Vegas Regional 2012

(If I missed anyone, I apologize in advance)

We've competed in the same event as 469 once at IRI in 2008, but we are looking forward to seeing this year's Michigan State Champ in action. I was glued to my computer last Saturday watching all of the great matches at MSC.

A few of the other teams I'm excited to see in person (other than 948 - who I saw in Ellensburg): 2590, 868, 20, 694, 1334, 316, 126, 2959.....(in no particular order and not a complete list yet by any means - I can only find and watch so much video in the last day or so)

Come by the High Roller's Pit in Archimedes and say hello if I don't wander by your pit first!!!

See you all in a few days, good luck, and safe travels.

Trent

Below are the links to the 987's Highlight videos from this year. Enjoy!

San Diego
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crdr08DuuSk

Las Vegas
http://youtu.be/Nw3jZvXsgxM

[George1902]

I must say, I'm disappointed in Archimedes this year...

80 posts into the thread and I'm the first to say:

OINK, OINK!

[dodar]

Originally Posted by George1902

I must say, I'm disappointed in Archimedes this year...

80 posts into the thread and I'm the first to say:

OINK, OINK!

People are saving their BOOM! for CMP. Dont worry, you'll hear it probably every match or two.

[Tom Ore]

Originally Posted by twetherbee

Team 525 - Curie 2012 (Thanks again for helping fix our intake after the Quarter Finals, true class)

We do take great pride in our GP, but in this case I think we were the team that damaged your intake. We really felt bad about that...

2013 has been an unbelievable year for us. It started with Woody mentioning us for our GP at kickoff. Then two regional wins, our first RCA and our first Dean's list student. Now back to champs for the fourth year in a row - we've had a year full of good luck (I guess hard work helps too.)

[stephenmcd71]

Hmmm was just thinking and thought that it would be nice if there was not only a picture of every robot but also a link to a good quality video of the robot in action...I know the google docs scouting page had a few with videos but would be cool to see everyone post a video of there robot in action.... just my thoughts

[mrmummert]

Hello...

No sense trying to hide ours....theres video of it at Blue Alliance and pictures here already. No telling how we'll do with all the talent in this Division.

[CLandrum3081]

And good luck to 525 Swartdogs! Seeing you at Northern Lights and 10K was an experience to behold! An always impressive bot that can do the job. It was so much fun being on the same alliance in one match at 10K, and that first RCA was long-overdue. Best of luck. 3081 will be cheering you on from home

[MrJohnston]

Now that I have had time to really study our field, I'll share my thoughts - without, however, sharing team numbers.

Out of the 100 teams in Archimedes:
* 7 are really, really good - any one of them could be the #1 captain
* 16 others are really good and will be playing in eliminations - barring techinical problems.
* 27 will need divine intervention if they are going to chosen for alliances
* The other 50 will be desperately trying to separate themselves to take one of the two remaining slots.


Autonomous and Ground pickup:
* There are a lot of teams with good pickup systems - a lot. Those that are also consistent scorers (about 12) will make it into eliminations.
* Four or five teams in eliminations with have the capability of 90 pt autonomous routines - in an effort to separate themselves, several teams with pickups will add nifty auto routines to make this possible.
* In eliminations NOBODY will score 90 in autonomous because many cycler w/o pickup systems will develop auto routines that have them roll back and straddle the center disks, effectively blocking the other team from getting them.

Cyclers:
* There are a LOT of excellent cyclers. Those that cannot shoot full court or pick up disks will need to separate themslves somehow. There will be 20-30 good cyclers that do not make eliminations.
* In an effort to separate themselves, they will try all sorts of things such as establishing auto routines that will block the midline disks from the other team or developing defensive skills showing they can stop top bots.

FCS:
* This is the most shallow part of our talent pool - most of the good ones tend to spend most of their time cycling as they are short and easy to block from the protected feeder.
* Those who do will well need to hit 3's with 70% accuracy, be able to fire 40+ disks and can only be slowed by a designated blocker.
* Those that are top-heavy are going to have problems as they can expect a lot of contact en route to the feeder. Those who land on their backsides will not make eliminations.
* To be successfull, the FCS will have to have options should they face the dreaded "rookie with a pool noodle" defense.
* This really narrows the field to only two or three good pure FCS - all of which should make elims.

Climbers:
* There are a bunch of great climbers. however, the only ones who will make elims are those who can do so quickly. The others (even with a dump) take so long to do so that they will not bring enough value to their team. (Somebody will play defense against them for the first 30 second of the match and completely prevent them from being able to get up the pyramid. Those good ones also cycle. Most like the top cycler and/or pickup bot will one of the climbers.


Alliance captains will have some really tough decisions to make. A 72pt autonomous is a must. However, are they going to want one of the two or three good FCS? If the an alliance captain is a cycler w/o ground pick our FCS capabilities, this will create are real difficulty....

With 100 teams and (likely) about 10 qualification matches, I predict two undefeated teams - they could be any of those seven. The #1 captain will have a ground pickup as it will win the Autonmous tie breaker. The best FCS will be chosen with the first pick and, with the 24th overall the top alliance will choose the best cycler avialble - hopefully with ground pickup.


The winning alliance will have:
* At least one (prefereably 2) robots that can pick loose disks from teh ground. If only one, it will have a 7 disk auotonmomous and one other bot will have an auto routine that blocks the midline disks from the opposing alliance.
* A FCS that demands the full attention of the other team.
* A 30 pt climb (prefereably with a dump) by any robot.
* The ability to take all 51 disks from the feeder with less than three bots.

[XaulZan11]

Originally Posted by MrJohnston

The #1 captain will have a ground pickup as it will win the Autonmous tie breaker. The best FCS will be chosen with the first pick and, with the 24th overall the top alliance will choose the best cycler avialble - hopefully with ground pickup.

Could you expand on the best cycler available at 24? With a FCS that can shoot 40+ discs, what would the cycler do if they do not have a ground pickup?

Great information. I've focused most of my attention on Galileo so it is interesting to see how the divisions differ in style of play and composition.

[efoote868]

Originally Posted by XaulZan11

Could you expand on the best cycler available at 24? With a FCS that can shoot 40+ discs, what would the cycler do if they do not have a ground pickup?

Play defense. Part of the thing that makes the best cyclers is their driver's abilities. Playing "avoid the other robots" can be more difficult than "hassle the opposing robots"

[Divy V.]

254 has a accurate 6.4 second climb, and they are in Archimedes!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-IrVbsl_K8