Make your Champs predictions!

[EricDrost]

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley

I'm under the opinion that the majority of great cyclers have a floor pickup. At least the ones I view as possible winning robots.

868 would like a word with you.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley

I'm under the opinion that the majority of great cyclers have a floor pickup. At least the ones I view as possible winning robots.

With the right team, pure cyclers can very effective and efficient, even more so than SOME groundloaders.

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley

I'm under the opinion that the majority of great cyclers have a floor pickup. At least the ones I view as possible winning robots.

Talk to 11, 245, 610, and 1114 to name a few. 1114 is being talked about as one of the teams most likely to win champs, and 610 has been mentioned more than a few times. I don't follow you.

[hiyou102]

Originally Posted by Gregor

Until they meet a rookie with a pool noodle.

If FCS is well designed, it can beat a 60" blocker on it's own. An 84" blocker however requires some help from alliance partners. Even if the FCS is being blocked, some good ones can cycle as well. If a robot has a hastily attached 84" blocker that doesn't move that can mean they are trapped in their zone all match while the FCS is cycling.

[Dominick Ferone]

Originally Posted by zzzag

353 will not be as lucky with the schedule in St. Louis as they were at Hofstra.

353 did have some easy matches but others we had to do all the work and carry our alliance and we have since modified our bot to do 60-80 points a match

[Justin Shelley]

Originally Posted by Gregor

Talk to 11, 245, 610, and 1114 to name a few. 1114 is being talked about as one of the teams most likely to win champs, and 610 has been mentioned more than a few times. I don't follow you.

1114 is the exception to this but I think auto is so important that in Championships they will encounter opponents with a much stronger auto then before that will beat them

Also all the robots that I said have a 7 disc auto were one's I found using the Google Doc scouting sheets for championships. Sorry if some of my information was wrong

[Justin Shelley]

Originally Posted by StAxis

(Emphasis mine) Maybe I missed something huge here, but almost certain that 148 does not have a floor pickup...

After looking back at their list on the pitscouting sheet i believe you are correct considering they have the infinity symbol listed as max opr

[MARS_James]

Although I will say auto is important it is not the be all end all of strategy. At South Florida the only 2 teams with the ability to pick up and score disks in auto finished rank 6 and 36 respectively, They teamed up in alliance against my team and in each of our matches with them we started autonomous 20 points behind each time and won those matches by 5 and 36 points.

[Sir Zordor]

For Curie Division, honest thoughts about our robot team 1262, and what could help us get picked for elims, (adding lexan shield, we are going to work on shooting a bit faster and backing up to feeder quicker).

[Anupam Goli]

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley

1114 is the exception to this but I think auto is so important that in Championships they will encounter opponents with a much stronger auto then before that will beat them

Also all the robots that I said have a 7 disc auto were one's I found using the Google Doc scouting sheets for championships. Sorry if some of my information was wrong

No doubt auto is important, but is it necessary to have more than 1 or 2 ground pickup bots? Also, i like to classify teams like 118 and 1986 as hybrid cyclers. they have floor pickups that they utilize for auto, but from match play, it seems that they prefer to cycle.

Also, i'm willing to bet all of my internet points that 610, 11, 245, and 125 will go very early during alliance selection. Cycling ability is important, and these teams are good enough to keep pace with floor pickups.

[nikeairmancurry]

If MSC gave us any preview, floor pick-ups were the main attraction. With 4 out of 6 in the finals (469, 2054, 2337 and 3539). The the last two robots? effectively were FCS. The majority of pure cycle bots did not make it so far.

[PayneTrain]

Originally Posted by Sir Zordor

For Curie Division, honest thoughts about our robot team 1262, and what could help us get picked for elims, (adding lexan shield, we are going to work on shooting a bit faster and backing up to feeder quicker).

You and 1541 have the disadvantage of only attending one event in a stacked division, but I can see both of you guys adding a cycle and maybe getting picked.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry

If MSC gave us any preview, floor pick-ups were the main attraction. With 4 out of 6 in the finals (469, 2054, 2337 and 3539). The the last two robots? effectively were FCS. The majority of pure cycle bots did not make it so far.

It's all a matter of circumstance. At MAR champs, 3 robots in the finals were cyclers with no ground pickup

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by Link07

It's all a matter of circumstance. At MAR champs, 3 robots in the finals were cyclers with no ground pickup

But also keep in mind there were no FCS's in MAR Champs finals (2729 don't count as they were a cycler 99% of the time), and each alliance had one ground pickup.

Especially given auto, I think it's a given that no alliance on Einstein will be strictly cyclers.

[Link07]

Originally Posted by DevenStonow

But also keep in mind there were no FCS's in MAR Champs finals (2729 don't count as they were a cycler 99% of the time), and each alliance had one ground pickup.

Especially given auto, I think it's a given that no alliance on Einstein will be strictly cyclers.

Oh yeah, a strictly cycler alliance won't work at champs, but a strict cycler on the right team (FCS-cycler-groundpickup for example) will be viable.