Einstein 2013

[Abhishek R]

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi

1477 <3

1477 <3 here too.

[ENeyman]

I'm a little confused. Didn't Newton beat Galileo in the first two matches. Why did it go to a third?

On that note, where can I find the Einstein match results? (My phone died during semis.)

[Akash Rastogi]

Originally Posted by ENeyman

I'm a little confused. Didn't Newton beat Galileo in the first two matches. Why did it go to a third?

On that note, where can I find the Einstein match results? (My phone died during semis.)

the 2nd match's score was falsely reported. It was corrected and it went to a third match. Galileo won the 3rd match. You missed a lot of anxiety Emmett!

[Steven Donow]

Originally Posted by ENeyman

I'm a little confused. Didn't Newton beat Galileo in the first two matches. Why did it go to a third?

On that note, where can I find the Einstein match results? (My phone died during semis.)

They miscalculated the score of that match, Galileo actually won, so they went to the third match where Galileo beat Newton.

[Abhishek R]

I was amazed at how two teams were able to put 254 points up in that match, confused me for a bit...however, no one made it easy for these guys to win, a rubber match in every single round? And they had to battle all kinds of bots, from 30/50 point climbers to full-court shooters. Very impressive, well-rounded alliance.

[610.Dad]

Wow! What an incredible accomplishment for these young people! I watched my own son, with great fatherly pride, assume a lead role in his senior year in what is basically another Grade 12 course without the credit! FIRST played a big role in his choice of Engineering for his undergrad work next year, and to have everything come together for 610 like this in their school's 100th anniversary year, is amazing!

Hats off to all the boys, the amazing mentors and teachers including Mr. Lim and everyone who had a hand in this incredible experience.

And of course, congratulations to every young person who made some great memories today, and the adults who supported them in their pursuits.

Well done.

[Justin Shelley]

This was an amazing competition and most of the major powershouse teams didn't make it to Einstein!! What do you guys think of FIRST using video recording to overturn a call?

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley

This was an amazing competition and most of the major powershouse teams didn't make it to Einstein!! What do you guys think of FIRST using video recording to overturn a call?

Please quote a source here, because that's not what happened.

[Justin Shelley]

Originally Posted by Gregor

Please quote a source here, because that's not what happened.

When it was originally determined that Newton beat Galileo in the second match and therefore put Newton in the finals. This was overturned because of a disc mis-count that was proved by reviewing video from the match and allowed Galileo to beat Newton in the third match therefore advancing to the Einstein Finals.

[Walter Deitzler]

Edit:: Gregor beat me too it.

Originally Posted by Justin Shelley

When it was originally determined that Newton beat Galileo in the second match and therefore put Newton in the finals. This was overturned because of a disc mis-count that was proved by reviewing video from the match and allowed Galileo to beat Newton in the third match therefore advancing to the Einstein Finals.

Not quite.

Originally Posted by Siri

Yes, they did indeed hand count directly after our match. The error wasn't in counting but in adding.

Frank explained it to us personally during finals. They put those baskets up, raise the center of the goal to empty the discs, and then count each basket separately (subtract auton discs later). The two baskets for us were 20 and 26, but instead of writing 46 the scorer inverted it and wrote 64. They didn't recount the discs (because they didn't find it until way later...ouch), Frank just showed us the physical paper on which they'd scribbled:

20
26
64

It hurt (a lot more than it would have otherwise), but there was no doubt and no legal reason to replay. Of course, explaining that to crying students is another issue

Galileo deserved it though. They were both fair wins, and personally couldn't think of a better alliance to lose to. Everyone was very gracious. Congratulations, guys!

In other news, awesome job 610, 1477, and 1241, you guys were AWESOME and most definitely deserved the win. These are the best finals I have seen in my time in FIRST. (And don't even get me started on Galileo eliminations, those were intense!)

[DampRobot]

Can I give a big shout out to 1678? First, it's cool to see a Cali team make it to the highest stage at world champs, but the Citrus Circuits are truly inspirational in additional ways. They went from virtually unknown a few years ago to being extremely competitive for all of the last three years (dare I say, powerhouse?). Their robot might not look as clean and professional as a 254 or 148 bot, but it's nevertheless very high performance. 1678 is a testament to what awesome prototyping, driver practice, and good old fashioned hard work can do.

[Ryan Dognaux]

I just wanted to recognize 303, 3476 & 1640 for playing an amazing strategy on Newton and onto Einstein. 3476's floor pickup was some of the best I've seen all year. 303's full court shooting was top notch and 1640's ability to go from collecting discs and shooting to playing defense at the drop of a hat was great to watch, and that 30 point climb absolutely gave you the edge.

I know it's going to take some time to get over the scoring mistakes made on Einstein, but be proud of how far you went this year. You all surprised everyone and I think you had the entire stadium rooting for you in the Newton finals.

I was hoping to see MAR vs. Michigan play out on the biggest stage and for a second there it almost happened.

We really, really have to make sure that this kind of stuff doesn't happen again next year. Two years running Einstein ran less than spectacular, for different reasons, but to me it didn't feel like Einstein until the final matches because of this scoring goof.

[TylerS]

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux

I just wanted to recognize 303, 3476 & 1640 for playing an amazing strategy on Newton and onto Einstein. 3476's floor pickup was some of the best I've seen all year. 303's full court shooting was top notch and 1640's ability to go from collecting discs and shooting to playing defense at the drop of a hat was great to watch, and that 30 point climb absolutely gave you the edge.

I know it's going to take some time to get over the scoring mistakes made on Einstein, but be proud of how far you went this year. You all surprised everyone and I think you had the entire stadium rooting for you in the Newton finals.

I was hoping to see MAR vs. Michigan play out on the biggest stage and for a second there it almost happened.

We really, really have to make sure that this kind of stuff doesn't happen again next year. Two years running Einstein ran less than spectacular, for different reasons, but to me it didn't feel like Einstein until the final matches because of this scoring goof.

Thanks it means a lot to hear that especially from someone just pointing it out on the internet.

[VioletElizabeth]

Originally Posted by DampRobot

Can I give a big shout out to 1678? First, it's cool to see a Cali team make it to the highest stage at world champs, but the Citrus Circuits are truly inspirational in additional ways. They went from virtually unknown a few years ago to being extremely competitive for all of the last three years (dare I say, powerhouse?). Their robot might not look as clean and professional as a 254 or 148 bot, but it's nevertheless very high performance. 1678 is a testament to what awesome prototyping, driver practice, and good old fashioned hard work can do.

I second that shout out!

Their robot was my favorite at Davis last year, simply because it looked like a signboard but shot so perfectly. It was amazing this year to see their 7disk autonomous on Einstein. Also, it was really nice talking to their mentor.

[chantal68]

Sorry, what is a rubber match?

Originally Posted by Abhishek R

I was amazed at how two teams were able to put 254 points up in that match, confused me for a bit...however, no one made it easy for these guys to win, a rubber match in every single round? And they had to battle all kinds of bots, from 30/50 point climbers to full-court shooters. Very impressive, well-rounded alliance.