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Re: 2013 Championship Curie Division

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Originally Posted by EricH View Post
No, it should not have been just a 20-point foul.
However, you don't have to interfere with a climb to get the 30 tacked on. You just have to affect it. If you affect it (and I would consider that potentially breaking raised hooks and forcing a realignment is most certainly affecting a climb, thank you very much--don't believe me, I'll try it on you and ask if you were affected), then it's a technical foul plus 30.
Just as background, my robot's climber DID get mangled by defence while going for a climb this year, resulting in us being eliminated from our only regional, so I definitely know how the folks on 148 would feel if 967's defence resulted in damage to their robot.

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148 was attempting a climb, their climb was affected, and in the process they contacted the tower. If they hadn't contacted the tower, no foul. If they hadn't been attempting a climb, 3-20 points in fouls. But they contacted the tower due to opponent action (though initiator of an action does not matter in this case), and their climb was affected after lining up had begun. When a climb begins--whether it's when you latch on or when you start lining up--is a matter of interpretation.
If the climb was truly affected, they should have also gotten a red card due to G27, no?
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ROBOTS may not contact or otherwise interfere with their opponents’ PYRAMID. Inconsequential contact will not be penalized.
Violation: TECHNICAL FOUL.

If an opponent’s CLIMB is affected,
RED CARD, and each affected opponent ROBOT will be granted credit for a Level 3 CLIMB at the end of the MATCH.
Since the 967 did not get assessed a red card, I take it to mean that the refs did not feel like the climb was affected, and so the climbing points should not have been awarded. And the refs on Curie were very clear that they knew what constituted a violation of G27 in the first finals match when the red alliance was disqualified due to that same rule.
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