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Re: Ungracious professionalism at internationals?

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The assumed (assumptions make an $@#$@#$@# out of u and me) conclusion is that either of their two alliance partners had some inside knowledge that no one else in the division knew that led to these two picking them.
It is also possible that they were told a slightly different version of broken than the other captains, bravery like mentioned earlier is the other main possibility. I don't think stupidity or poor scouting would be part of it considering 1538 is a very smart very elite team that has been around the block.

Something that ran through my mind is that if the intent was to let 217 drop to the #1 alliance, a good strategy towards achieving that would be to say "we would accept if you picked us." This way you cannot call a bluff without risking an immobile robot on your alliance. If it was said "if you pick us we would decline" it would make it really simple to call a potential bluff because you could just pick 217 and be rejected and move onto your next pick and select them after the decline.
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Re: Ungracious professionalism at internationals?

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Something that ran through my mind is that if the intent was to let 217 drop to the #1 alliance, a good strategy towards achieving that would be to say "we would accept if you picked us." This way you cannot call a bluff without risking an immobile robot on your alliance. If it was said "if you pick us we would decline" it would make it really simple to call a potential bluff because you could just pick 217 and be rejected and move onto your next pick and select them after the decline.
That's a very interesting point, I didn't think of that.


Another possibility is that 'we're not working' means one thing to 217 than it does to 1538/1986. To 217, them not working could mean missing shots in auto but still able to feed down the field. If that's all 1538 wanted, then they may have asked for details about exactly what on 217 wasn't working and made their decision based on more data than other teams but not because it was hidden from the rest of the division, because 1538 went out and took it. Of course, that is debunked if 217 went around telling the rest of the division what on their robot wasn't working/to what level they were broken.
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