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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

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9 foot falls. not fun to watch.
I think I have to go against this one... 9 foot falls are a huge draw for a crowd (think NASCAR). Nothing could make the entire audience come together like a robot taking a dive this year. Even more so when that robot actually showed up to their next match and performed. There was nothing in the manual that said you had to climb, and those that chose to take the games name for what it was and climb were well aware of the risk involved.

After climbing the pyramid 20+ times in competition, we only fell once. That time was completely due to bad coaching on my part. A lot comes down to what you build and how you build it. Climbing itself wasn't hard to do, designing a fail safe method of climbing was the tough part.
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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

I didn't like a couple of things about kickoff this year. I feel like they showed the game animation way too early and it wasn't as suspenseful as it was in previous years. Maybe I'm weird, but I actually liked sitting through a few hours of talking and animations and whatnot before the game reveal, I think it built up more suspense that way.

This is also more of a local thing, but the St. Louis FRC Kickoff at the Science Center was in a different area than where it used to be (was in planetarium last season and before) and I feel like the atmosphere wasn't as epic as it used to be. Also they used to play a slideshow of the pics from the STL regional the previous year and it was a fun nostalgia spree each time before kickoff.

Plus no Stephen Colbert, man...
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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

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Maybe I'm weird, but I actually liked sitting through a few hours of talking and animations and whatnot before the game reveal, I think it built up more suspense that way.
ohmygodno, kickoff was perfect this year, for some of us western teams getting up at 4 am to go to kickoff sucks as it is, waiting through 2 hours of talking is a waste of our time. I liked this year where we showed up to kick off, got the game, saw the field and left, it was much less dreadful than last year.
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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

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ohmygodno, kickoff was perfect this year, for some of us western teams getting up at 4 am to go to kickoff sucks as it is, waiting through 2 hours of talking is a waste of our time. I liked this year where we showed up to kick off, got the game, saw the field and left, it was much less dreadful than last year.
I agree it was wayyyy better this year but I do think that it needed a bit more build up. I remember asking people around me to reassure me that this was, in fact, the game animation because it caught me by such surprise. I don't think it needs more speeches or anything, just a little hype is all.
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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

Something not mentioned so far (because I'm probably the only one who cares): can the MCs bring back the original pre-match cadence?

Red team are you ready?
Blue team are you ready?

Drivers behind the lines...
3, 2, 1, go!

Saying those two lines would only take a few extra seconds, and it would do a lot for my sanity and stress level if my team ever lets me be drive coach again.
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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

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Something not mentioned so far (because I'm probably the only one who cares): can the MCs bring back the original pre-match cadence?

Red team are you ready?
Blue team are you ready?

Drivers behind the lines...
3, 2, 1, go!

Saying those two lines would only take a few extra seconds, and it would do a lot for my sanity and stress level if my team ever lets me be drive coach again.
They do something along those lines at every competition I've ever been too. Its not always both alliance but "Drivers are you ready?" and they look at both alliances for thumbs up be for saying the rest of the schpeel that you mentioned.
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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

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Something not mentioned so far (because I'm probably the only one who cares): can the MCs bring back the original pre-match cadence?

Red team are you ready?
Blue team are you ready?

Drivers behind the lines...
3, 2, 1, go!

Saying those two lines would only take a few extra seconds, and it would do a lot for my sanity and stress level if my team ever lets me be drive coach again.
Actually saying the "Red team are you ready...." part does add on quite a bit of time, especially if we wait for acknowledgement from the alliance members (if we don't, then what is the point of saying it at all?), and when we are generally working on a very tight match rotation (this year was a little bit of an exception because the FTA's overestimated the amount of time needed for match rotations) we try to shave off every second we can.

The current way that Emcee's are directed to say it is:
(Wait for Green Light, look to see if FTA, Head Ref, teams, and Scorekeeper are ready)
Drivers behind the lines...
3, 2, 1, go!

...or some sort of similiar varient.
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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

Again, this is an exceedingly minor issue.
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The current way that Emcee's are directed to say it is:
(Wait for Green Light, look to see if FTA, Head Ref, teams, and Scorekeeper are ready)
Drivers behind the lines...
3, 2, 1, go!
At Chesapeake, Greg Needel explained to me that his instructions are to omit these lines during qualifications, but to say them during eliminations.
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Actually saying the "Red team are you ready...." part does add on quite a bit of time, especially if we wait for acknowledgement from the alliance members (if we don't, then what is the point of saying it at all?)
I'd argue the point is to help develop a rhythm for everyone involved in the field operations. It's a verbal cue that prompts people to transition from "setup" tasks to "gameplay" tasks. Like every NFL quarterback knows, messing with the cadence has subtle but powerful effects on mental preparedness.
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Re: 2013 Lessons Learned: The Negative

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Something not mentioned so far (because I'm probably the only one who cares): can the MCs bring back the original pre-match cadence?

Red team are you ready?
Blue team are you ready?

Drivers behind the lines...
3, 2, 1, go!

Saying those two lines would only take a few extra seconds, and it would do a lot for my sanity and stress level if my team ever lets me be drive coach again.
At Orlando, South Florida, and Newton (the three events I attended) the MC's all said this or something similar:
"We have a green light:
Red Alliance are you ready?
Blue Alliance are you ready?
3, 2, 1, GO!"

Sometimes they would add in the drivers behind the line but not always.
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kickoff sucks as it is, waiting through 2 hours of talking is a waste of our time. -snip-
These folks are bright, intelligent leaders in their respective fields that are giving collectively millions of dollars, hours, and resources straight to you because they believe in you. If they choose to talk to you during kickoff, it's probably because they have something important/inspirational to say, and you should probably pay attention.

I have always been confused by the hordes of people who swarm Dean wherever he goes, give two minute standing ovations whenever his name is mentioned, and then gripe when he wants to talk to us.
Dean Kamen is a pretty smart dude. If he wants to talk to me, I want to listen.
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Maybe I'm weird, but I actually liked sitting through a few hours of talking and animations and whatnot [snip]
Yeah, that is a little odd.

Our team doesn't have a close local kickoff, and traveling out of state for that event isn't practical when we can watch the same animation at home and then immediately use our home facility to start working on the game. So kickoff is one part of the year when we get to make our own decisions about how much introductory material is appropriate. We keep the kickoff on in the background and wait for the good parts. I've watched the whole thing a couple of times, and I end up zoning out for parts of it. Planning the kickoff warrants the same type of editorial restraint as planning Einstein - while the messages might be 100% on the money, the attention span of the average viewer (adults included) is finite.
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