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[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by smistthegreat

First of all, I want to thank you for producing such a polished game and manual and especially for making it public. One quick question, why change the motor rules from Ultimate Ascent? I thought the 2013 motor rules were very heavy on high-power motors, but these rules are even heavier (6 CIM, 4 banebots, 4 BAG, and 4 Mini CIM!?). Not really a problem, just something that caught my eye and I would like to hear the reason behind this.

Also, according to the manual, Ultimate Ascent R03 would still apply, limiting robots to 84 inches tall at all times. Is this a mistake? Unless I'm completely missing something, how are 84 inch robots supposed to score on 10 foot poles?

Motor rules were another one of those things that just sort of annoyed our team. We never really understood why miniCIMS and BAG motors were put in the same category when they have such different power ratings. I assume it's actually a sponsorship/money thing with FIRST but I don't know that. The same reason why the BB are all lumped together even though a BB395 and BB775 are extremely different. We left the BB rule since we have had it for so long.

You are correct R03 was supposed to be edited to only regulate the 112in frame perimeter. It's interesting that the expansion rules are redundant in the UA manual both as game rules and as robot rules.