1114 and 2056's shooter wheels

[Racer26]

Ah. I figured that might be the case for 1114, was unsure when the ban on new Canadian accounts started, but it seems like it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 2009 from what I can find based on Canadians complaining on online forums about it.

[pfreivald]

Does anyone happen to have a weight on these wheels?

[Gregor]

Originally Posted by Holtzman

My advice would be to email them explaining your situation(being a highschool team, exposing future engineers to their company, blah, blah, blah), and ask them to open an account for you.

They're not interested. Future engineers, we'll pay you, and others teams spend x dollars annually didn't help.

We had a friend in the US try and order some blue nitrile for us, and even then they wouldn't ship it across the border.

[Racer26]

I know my employer has an account. I'm sure I could convince my boss to let me piggyback some stuff on an order if 4343 needed something and couldn't get it somewhere else.

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Gregor

They're not interested. Future engineers, we'll pay you, and others teams spend x dollars annually didn't help.

We had a friend in the US try and order some blue nitrile for us, and even then they wouldn't ship it across the border.

From what I recall they got busted under the Patriot Act for selling something that has 5 million and one different uses (with only one of them being dangerous)to people in the Persian Gulf.

After that they must have decided it was easier to not deal with any new foreigners. From what I understand they are very rigid in this policy, even sometimes refusing to ship orders that look like they're headed to a border town to be brought over into Canada.

[E_puello]

our rookie team was able to create an account and put orders out.
we have had some of our orders denied when we set the shipping address to a mentors house, but when we ship it to the school there are no problems.

[Patriot]

Originally Posted by Racer26

Ah. I figured that might be the case for 1114, was unsure when the ban on new Canadian accounts started, but it seems like it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 2009 from what I can find based on Canadians complaining on online forums about it.

Actually our first order was refused because we were not a long standing Canadian Customer. So I ordered and shipped to a US mail box once. Then the next fall tried again, and voila, we were a long standing Canadian customer and have had our orders delivered to the school next day ever since.

[mman1506]

apparently if you state that the order is going to a school address for FIRST robotics it will go through.

[Cash4587]

So is there not a best compression to the disks? Or is it 1/2in to a 1/4in?

[Cory]

Originally Posted by Cash4587

So is there not a best compression to the disks? Or is it 1/2in to a 1/4in?

You're going to have to try it and see. It's completely dependent on what the surface opposite the wheel is. There's no shortcut for testing it yourself.

[Cash4587]

Originally Posted by Cory

You're going to have to try it and see. It's completely dependent on what the surface opposite the wheel is. There's no shortcut for testing it yourself.

Sweet thanks for the info! I am trying to get access to my teams parts and robot.. They are both in a chemistry closet right now We are going to test them soon though.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Anyone try these with a cut down version of the WCP colson hub? It looks like the OD of the hub might be a bit to small but I'm not sure.

[MichaelBick]

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

Anyone try these with a cut down version of the WCP colson hub? It looks like the OD of the hub might be a bit to small but I'm not sure.

We haven't, but it should be super easy to make a hub. You turn down 1.375" or 1.5" stock a bit, bore, and then cutoff. Later you broach. Assuming you have a lathe and arbor press it is super easy to do.

[AllenGregoryIV]

Originally Posted by MICHAELABICK

Assuming you have a lathe and arbor press it is super easy to do.

Rather a large assumptions for the majority of FRC teams. We'll probably be calling in a favor or two to get a few made for us before IRI.

[thefro526]

Originally Posted by Cory

You can turn them on a lathe with a properly ground, very sharp HSS tool.

Ah, good to know. At the Championship, we were trying to come up with a quick fix for an encoder disk (previous wheel had a piece of retro reflective tape on the hub) and discovered that the wheels are really tough to work with.

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

Anyone try these with a cut down version of the WCP colson hub? It looks like the OD of the hub might be a bit to small but I'm not sure.

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV

Rather a large assumptions for the majority of FRC teams. We'll probably be calling in a favor or two to get a few made for us before IRI.

Having made hubs for both Colsons and these Urethane Wheels, I can say that the hubs are similar, but a hub made for a colson would be too small for the urethane wheel. If you really wanted to, you could sleeve the urethane wheel with a piece of 1.25" (nominal) tubing that's somewhere around 1/32" wall and probably make something work, but at that point, it might be more prudent to just make hubs that are the correct OD.

I have a drawing somewhere of the hubs that we're running in our urethane wheels, if you need it/it'll help expedite getting them made in time for IRI, shoot me a PM.