Who is the highest possible scoring alliance out there?

[Jay O'Donnell]

Hey CD,
I was doing the math today about possible alliances at IRI that could (and probably will) break the record for most points scored in a match. The highest score I could get (assuming no defense, penalties, or other robots) was 331. For the purposes of this thread, let's assume it is 3v0, and that every shot is made. Here's how I see it...
The alliance is 1114, 67, and 469. 469 Pulls off a 7 disc auton, and 67 and 1114 both put in 18 points. In teleop, 469 pulls off 7 cycles (which they have done at MSC and maybe champs) including scoring the other remaining 6 discs on the floor. 1114 pulls off a few cycles and then goes to climb, with 3 colored discs with them. 67 perfectly shoots any remaining discs via FCS and then goes to also climb with three colored discs. Both 67 and 1114 get 45 point climbs, and 469 hangs for 10.

Point breakdown:
Auton: 13 discs scored for 78 points
Teleop: all 45 feeder station discs and the 6 remaining floor discs are scored for 153 points
Endgame: two 45 point climbs plus a 10 point hang result in 100 points
Total: 331 Points

I know this is with no defense, failures, missed discs, etc. but is this something that can actually be achieved at IRI? and is there an alliance out there that could (theoretically) top this (theoretical) score?

[joelg236]

Originally Posted by Jay Money 1058

The alliance is 1114, 67, and 469.

Oh how much I would pay to see this.

[Boe]

The only way change to that alliance i would make to max scoring potential would be to swap 469 for 254, that keeps the 7 disc and sweeping ability while adding 20 more climb points. 254 would sweep misses and 67 would shoot all the white discs 1114 doesnt shoot.

[BrendanB]

Originally Posted by Boe

The only way change to that alliance i would make to max scoring potential would be to swap 469 for 254, that keeps the 7 disc and sweeping ability while adding 20 more climb points. 254 would sweep misses and 67 would shoot all the white discs 1114 doesnt shoot.

You could probably get a higher potential score with 67 FCS, 1114 doing 2-3 cycles, and 254 sweeping the field (but if 67 is on fire) 254 can sweep the other side of the field and steal missed shots from the other side of the field.

I think it is possible to see the high score broken but how we may never know!

[IKE]

1986, 254, 1114

7+5+3 disc auton=90 points in auton
all 45 discs 4 disc on the floor + 2 colored discs=51*3=153 pts.
2 30 pt. climbs and a 50 point climb=110 pts.

90+153+110= 353 pts...

[Pault]

Originally Posted by IKE

1986, 254, 1114

7+5+3 disc auton=90 points in auton
all 45 discs 4 disc on the floor + 2 colored discs=51*3=153 pts.
2 30 pt. climbs and a 50 point climb=110 pts.

90+153+110= 353 pts...

Gotta be careful there, you have 2 inside climbers. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't work.

Hopefully we will find out in 2 months.

[Richard Wallace]

Originally Posted by joelg236

Oh how much I would pay to see this.

You might get to see it for free!

Originally Posted by Pault

Gotta be careful there, you have 2 inside climbers. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't work.

Hopefully we will find out in 2 months.

Except that Titanium won't be at IRI.

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The two scenarios above have a common theme: the match ends with NOTHING left to shoot. Yes, I think we will see that at IRI, maybe more than once.

[themccannman]

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

You might get to see it for free!

Except that Titanium won't be at IRI.

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The two scenarios above have a common theme: the match ends with NOTHING left to shoot. Yes, I think we will see that at IRI, maybe more than once.

I'm sure that will happen multiple times, in fact I would expect most of the elimination matches to end with no discs in the feeder station and no discs on the floor. I'm pretty sure that's how most of the Enstien matches ended and I'd expect better from IRI.

I think almost any alliance made of top tier teams could shoot every disk on the field. I think the highest score possible could be achieved by any alliance that one FCS, two 50 point cimb and dumpers, and a ground pick up with a 30 point internal climb. 67 1114 and 254 could definitely pull this off.

[rwkling1]

I would say team 67, 1114, and 1986. each have 30 pt climbers, 67 can get 4 colored frisbees in the top goal, 1114 can get the other 2, 1986 has a 30 pt climb, and they're all awesome scorers, with a 13 disc auto.

[qzrrbz]

Originally Posted by rwkling1

I would say team 67, 1114, and 1986. each have 30 pt climbers, 67 can get 4 colored frisbees in the top goal, 1114 can get the other 2, 1986 has a 30 pt climb, and they're all awesome scorers, with a 13 disc auto.

A question of "did it happen this year?" 6 colored discs in the 5 pt goal -- ever?

Seems like there isn't enough room for them!

[Kevin Leonard]

Originally Posted by qzrrbz

A question of "did it happen this year?" 6 colored discs in the 5 pt goal -- ever?

Seems like there isn't enough room for them!

It did. At WPI, 558 put 6 discs in the pyramid goal. However not by climbing/dumping, but by shooting pyramid discs.

[Boe]

Alliance 254, 67, 1114

Auton
254-7 discs =42 points
67-3 discs =18 points
1114-3 discs =18 points

Telop (assuming 3v0)
254 gets 4 discs on other side plus the 11? discs in the middle while also getting 67/1114s misses =45 points
67 fcs all the shots 1114 doesnt take
1114 makes a few cycles =135 points

climbs
254 =30 points
67 30 climb 20 dumb =50 points
1114 30 climb ten dumb =40 points

grand total of 378

[Jay O'Donnell]

Originally Posted by Boe

Alliance 254, 67, 1114

Auton
254-7 discs =42 points
67-3 discs =18 points
1114-3 discs =18 points

Telop (assuming 3v0)
254 gets 4 discs on other side plus the 11? discs in the middle while also getting 67/1114s misses =45 points
67 fcs all the shots 1114 doesnt take
1114 makes a few cycles =135 points

climbs
254 =30 points
67 30 climb 20 dumb =50 points
1114 30 climb ten dumb =40 points

grand total of 378

While I did say to think of it as 3v0, I was also considering the field to be like a normal match of superstars, where there is usually only two discs in the center. That being said, this score is still 351 without those extra 9 discs in the center, which is higher than my original 331 thanks to an extra 20 hang points from 254 (which I know was said earlier in the thread). Oh how I hope this alliance happens at IRI!

[gabrielau23]

Originally Posted by Thunder910

It did. At WPI, 558 put 6 discs in the pyramid goal. However not by climbing/dumping, but by shooting pyramid discs.

SHOOTING them? That's insane.

[M. Lillis]

Originally Posted by gabrielau23

SHOOTING them? That's insane.

Here is the video that you want. I don't know if it's actually in the video, but they are all in the blue pyramid. 558's main strategy for WPI was shoot all 6 colored discs and then 2 white discs, then hang. It worked really well for this match (and a few others, where they would get 3 or 4 colored discs in).