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Re: Pacific NW District (Official)

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Minor nitpick: The two major arenas in Portland are the Rose Garden, and the Memorial Colesium. They're located adjacent to each other in an area called the Rose Quarter. The Memorial Colesium is the one that all the previous FIRST events have been in.
You are right, it's currently slated for the "Portland Veterans Memorial Coliseum".
They chose this venue because the costs are much lower than anywhere else, the venue is large and has been great in the past.

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just brought up recently and is not yet being debated, as Navid indicated initially.
I apologize if I didn’t make it clear at the beginning. As Mr. V. noted above, none of this is set in stone yet. I just wanted this information to be available to the CD community at large and that it would hopefully foster further discussion.

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I have a great deal of faith in the PNW organizers... they have always been gracious, welcoming and inclusive. I don't think a district system will change that.
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Absolutely. Kevin and Deb noted that the district system is being created to improve the quality for local teams. After every team in Washington and Oregon is taken care of, and Idaho/Montana teams have received their invitations, there is a possibility that others may be able to join. We have always been glad to have teams travel to our events, but we are growing fast. I was glad to have 4334 in Seattle and I hope we will see more of you in the future!
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Re: Pacific NW District (Official)

So If I'm understanding this correctly only Northern Idaho teams will receive the invitations, not the Southern Idaho teams?
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So If I'm understanding this correctly only Northern Idaho teams will receive the invitations, not the Southern Idaho teams?
Incorrect, but it was anticipated that the previously stated regions would be more likely to accept an invitation.

As of right now, there are only 21 teams in Idaho and Montana combined. Even with our projected growth, I would guess we'd be able to make space for all of them. The PNW is certainly not trying to leave anyone out.
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Re: Pacific NW District (Official)

It does make sense that the northern Idaho teams would be more likely to come, I just figured I would check. Thanks
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Re: Pacific NW District (Official)

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So If I'm understanding this correctly only Northern Idaho teams will receive the invitations, not the Southern Idaho teams?
Since the Utah regional has existed the majority of teams in Southern ID have been playing there, not at one of the events the PNW district will be replacing while those in Northern ID have typically been attending the events that the PNW district is replacing. So while the invitation is open to all teams in ID we only expect it to make sense for those in Northern ID to participate.

FIRST's long term goal would be for the PNW district to include all of ID and MT as well as AK but in the short term teams are allowed to make the choice that suits them best. The PNW district does not intend to exclude the S. ID teams.

Edit: ID teams and where they played in 2013 season.

Spokane
2122
2130
3145
3315
3513
4520

Portland
2130
3145
4106

Utah
2122
4178
4106
4175
1566
1891
2594
1569
3562
3251
4086

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Spokane
3483
1695
1696

Utah
3126
3483

Western Canada
1691

Note there were a number of unfilled positions at the Spokane event and the Portland event.
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Re: Pacific NW District (Official)

There was a very good EWCP podcast from last year that had an in depth discussion about the districts. I'd recommend anyone who wants to hear a lot of district system "inside baseball" give it a listen.

The Jim Zondag whitepaper referenced above is also a great read.
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Re: Pacific NW District (Official)

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Absolutely. Kevin and Deb noted that the district system is being created to improve the quality for local teams. After every team in Washington and Oregon is taken care of, and Idaho/Montana teams have received their invitations, there is a possibility that others may be able to join. We have always been glad to have teams travel to our events, but we are growing fast. I was glad to have 4334 in Seattle and I hope we will see more of you in the future!
I don't believe this can work quite like this unless the teams from further afield commit fully to participating the district hierarchy. It'll introduce similar problems to what I've mentioned further up the thread if you have out-of-district teams competing at a district event, as the points earned will be meaningless to them (and they will be unable to earn a berth at the World Championship at the same time).

Districted teams are required to register first for a district event before deciding to attend a traditional regional. I don't believe it's fair to allow outside teams to select a regional event first and then opt to compete in a district event whereby they hurt the chance for local teams to advance to higher levels of play.
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