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Re: Best Robot for Each Category?

My personal opinons, in no particular order:

FCS: 2169
Pure Climber: 1421 about 20 second climb and dump, could also get 8 discs into the 1 point goal in a match, made it to CMP
Defense: 233 and 2789 (233 may seem like an odd pick but they had a great driver and when they needed to could play outstanding defense)
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My personal opinons, in no particular order:

FCS: 2169
Pure Climber: 1421 about 20 second climb and dump, could also get 8 discs into the 1 point goal in a match, made it to CMP
Defense: 233 and 2789 (233 may seem like an odd pick but they had a great driver and when they needed to could play outstanding defense)
Floor Pickup: 2056, 1477, 118, 1538
Shooter-Climber: 1114, 1986, 254,
All Around: 254, 469, 1114, 987
I'd put 1477 in the All Around category after watching Einstein. They ran cycles, swept the floor, played defense, and finally found a use for their elevator by blocking 469's FCS. Plus, they can full court shoot (like the rest of their Championship alliance), but as Mr. Lim put it, they could beat that by cycling.
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Yeah, I was gonna put 1477 in the all around category...but they could shoot full court?
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Re: Best Robot for Each Category?

[maaaad Canadian Bias.]

Cycler: 610
FCS: 1310
Climber: 1334
Defense: 4814
Floor Pickup: 2056
Shooter-Climber: 1114
All Around: 1114
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Re: Best Robot for Each Category?

I'll throw 3309 into the "Pure Climber". They did have a shooter, but they mainly used it in automode--maybe one or two cycles afterwards. Then they'd go to the player station, grab 3-4 colored discs, and head for the corner of the pyramid. If they were left undefended they'd be at the top by the end, and the discs would be in the goal.
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Re: Best Robot for Each Category?

And the winners are:

Winner followed by runners up
FCS- 148, 67, 2169, 469
Climber- 3606, 3164, 3467, 1421
Defense- 2789, 4814, 3284, 233
Floor pickup- 3476, 1477, 469, 624
Shooter climber- 254, 1114, 67, 1986
Autonumous- 118, 3476, 1310, 1477

All around top 10(in order)
118, 254, 67, 1114, 469, 3476, 1477, 33, 148, 2056

Honorable mention: 217, 1310, 1986, 1758, 987, 2169, 3847, 1241, 624, 610
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Re: Best Robot for Each Category?

FCS-148
Climber-254
Defense-3284
Floor Pickup-2056
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Re: Best Robot for Each Category?

FCS: 148- for me, the best tall full-court shooter beacuse of their ability to run a cycle as fast as many short full court shooers. Runner up- 2169, a well deserved division finalist.
Pure Climber: I haven't got a chance to watch top only-climb robots, exept for 1421- a great climber with a realy cool mecahnism.
Defence: 2337 & 4814 got a first place in my opinion, most of it because those inside-the-opponent's-pyramid blocks.
Floor Pickup: 469 for sure. Runners up- 118, 2056, 987.
Shooter-Climber: 1114 with a great cycler robot that can win a match just by cycling, but they have a 50 additional points for the climb.
All Around- 469 & 1114 are the best robots this year. can't wait for IRI. By the way, it was realy great to be at 1114's pit- their machine is even more great from a close range, and they showed the climbing gearbox and arm- always with a smile and patient. Definitely a team to learn from.
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[maaaad Canadian Bias.]
Canadian bias or not, this is a great list. Your defense on Curie was the most exciting and unexpected highlight of champs for me.
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[maaaad Canadian Bias.]

Cycler: 610
FCS: 1310
Climber: 1334
Defense: 4814
Floor Pickup: 2056
Shooter-Climber: 1114
All Around: 1114
What I love about this post is it's pretty much dead accurate, even with the Canadian bias.
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What I love about this post is it's pretty much dead accurate, even with the Canadian bias.
What you sayin bout the rest of us fool!

For all around my vote goes to 469. We faced them in 3 matches on Archimedes and they are just flat out amazing. Its impossible to predict what they will do aside from score the living daylights out of you. One second they are cycling extremely fast and then blasting away with their deadly accurate FCS and seconds later will be sweeping the floor on the other side of the field. You go to block them and they change their strategy quickly and efficiently.

Amazingly consistent and probably have the largest "bag of tricks" to perform in a match.
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469 was literally incredible, especially seeing them on Einstein buuuuuut there might some controversy here.

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469 was literally incredible, especially seeing them on Einstein buuuuuut there might some controversy here.

We will find out at IRI!!!
I don't see where there is controversy. While 1114 is amazing this year as always, they aren't my personal #1 from the season. FRCTop25 also isn't the final metric of robot performance and who is the best. I personally see it as a "who is the most popular at the moment" list and due to participants ranking teams in voting based on differing reasons the list will never truly represent who THE best robot of the year is. Even its creators have said its just a fun show and shouldn't be taken seriously because "outside the top 25" are always a slew of amazing robots that can be considered the best for various reasons. 469 also came much closer to the world championship.

At the end of the day they are both amazing robots but each in their own separate ways.
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469 was literally incredible, especially seeing them on Einstein buuuuuut there might some controversy here.

We will find out at IRI!!!
I think the "controversy" in the rankings was due to 469 not usually releasing any type of robot showcase video. This puts them under radar of teams such as 118, 254, and 987. I also think not pairing with 67 this year hurt 469 as they were not able to put up a 220 type score together. As elite as 469 is, it's always weird that people will sometimes not put them in the top 5 competitive robot teams overall.
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Remember that those rankings are not only Pre-Championship, but Pre-MSC. They directly beat two of the teams ahead of them at the championship, and finished better then everyone else.

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They scored 219 at MSC, and had 4 scores over 220 at the championship, including 266.
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